From: Jeff Layton <jlayton@kernel.org>
To: Christian Brauner <brauner@kernel.org>
Cc: Amir Goldstein <amir73il@gmail.com>,
Stefan Berger <stefanb@linux.ibm.com>,
Paul Moore <paul@paul-moore.com>,
zohar@linux.ibm.com, linux-integrity@vger.kernel.org,
miklos@szeredi.hu, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
linux-security-module@vger.kernel.org,
linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org, linux-unionfs@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH] overlayfs: Trigger file re-evaluation by IMA / EVM after writes
Date: Tue, 11 Apr 2023 06:13:15 -0400 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <b137033f3cd971b0cfc71045cab63440dfe9c7f8.camel@kernel.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20230411-holzbalken-stuben-6cea8b722a1b@brauner>
On Tue, 2023-04-11 at 11:49 +0200, Christian Brauner wrote:
>
> >
> > > Afaict, filesystems that persist i_version to disk automatically raise
> > > SB_I_VERSION. I would guess that it be considered a bug if a filesystem
> > > would persist i_version to disk and not raise SB_I_VERSION. If so IMA
> > > should probably be made to check for IS_I_VERSION() and it will probably
> > > get that by switching to vfs_getattr_nosec().
> >
> > Not quite. SB_I_VERSION tells the vfs that the filesystem wants the
> > kernel to manage the increment of the i_version for it. The filesystem
> > is still responsible for persisting that value to disk (if appropriate).
>
> Yes, sure it's the filesystems responsibility to persist it to disk or
> not. What I tried to ask was that when a filesystem does persist
> i_version to disk then would it be legal to mount it without
> SB_I_VERSION (because ext2/ext3 did use to have that mount option)? If
> it would then the filesystem would probably need to take care to leave
> the i_version field in struct inode uninitialized to avoid confusion or
> would that just work? (Mere curiosity, don't feel obligated to go into
> detail here. I don't want to hog your time.)
>
In modern kernels, not setting SB_I_VERSION would mainly have the effect
of stopping increments of i_version field on write. It would also mean
that the STATX_CHANGE_COOKIE is not automatically reported via getattr.
You probably wouldn't want to mount the fs without SB_I_VERSION set. The
missing increments could trick an observer into believing that nothing
had changed in the file across mounts when it actually had.
--
Jeff Layton <jlayton@kernel.org>
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2023-04-11 10:13 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 46+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2023-04-05 17:14 [PATCH] overlayfs: Trigger file re-evaluation by IMA / EVM after writes Stefan Berger
2023-04-06 10:26 ` Christian Brauner
2023-04-06 14:05 ` Paul Moore
2023-04-06 14:20 ` Stefan Berger
2023-04-06 14:36 ` Paul Moore
2023-04-06 15:01 ` Christian Brauner
2023-04-06 18:46 ` Jeff Layton
2023-04-06 19:11 ` Stefan Berger
2023-04-06 19:37 ` Jeff Layton
2023-04-06 20:22 ` Stefan Berger
2023-04-06 21:24 ` Jeff Layton
2023-04-06 21:58 ` Stefan Berger
2023-04-06 22:09 ` Jeff Layton
2023-04-06 22:04 ` Jeff Layton
2023-04-06 22:27 ` Stefan Berger
2023-04-07 8:31 ` Christian Brauner
2023-04-07 13:29 ` Jeff Layton
2023-04-09 15:22 ` Christian Brauner
2023-04-09 22:12 ` Jeff Layton
2023-04-11 8:38 ` Christian Brauner
2023-04-11 9:32 ` Jeff Layton
2023-04-11 9:49 ` Christian Brauner
2023-04-11 10:13 ` Jeff Layton [this message]
2023-04-11 14:08 ` Christian Brauner
2023-04-21 14:55 ` Mimi Zohar
2023-04-17 1:57 ` Stefan Berger
2023-04-17 8:11 ` Christian Brauner
2023-04-17 10:05 ` Jeff Layton
2023-04-17 12:45 ` Stefan Berger
2023-04-17 13:18 ` Jeff Layton
2023-04-21 14:43 ` Mimi Zohar
2023-05-18 20:46 ` Paul Moore
2023-05-18 20:50 ` Mimi Zohar
2023-05-19 14:58 ` Paul Moore
2023-05-25 14:43 ` Mimi Zohar
2023-05-19 19:42 ` Mimi Zohar
2023-05-20 9:15 ` Amir Goldstein
2023-05-22 12:18 ` Mimi Zohar
2023-05-22 14:00 ` Amir Goldstein
2023-05-23 19:38 ` Mimi Zohar
2023-05-20 9:17 ` Christian Brauner
2023-05-21 22:49 ` Dave Chinner
2023-05-23 17:35 ` Mimi Zohar
2023-04-17 14:07 ` Stefan Berger
2023-04-07 6:42 ` Amir Goldstein
2023-04-06 16:10 ` Stefan Berger
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