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From: kgold@linux.vnet.ibm.com (Ken Goldman)
To: linux-security-module@vger.kernel.org
Subject: [tpmdd-devel] [PATCH] tpm: improve tpm_tis send() performance by ignoring burstcount
Date: Wed, 9 Aug 2017 16:25:48 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <db0359cc-5e6b-2055-734a-bd9104e4a99f@linux.vnet.ibm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20170808191145.kggmoczd5laiccrn@linux.intel.com>

On 8/8/2017 3:11 PM, Jarkko Sakkinen wrote:
 > On Mon, Aug 07, 2017 at 01:52:34PM +0200, Peter Huewe wrote:

 >> Are you sure this is a good idea?
 >> On lpc systems this more or less stalls the bus, including 
keyboard/mouse (if connected via superio lpc).
 >>
 >> On which systems have you tested this?
 >> Spi/Lpc? Architecture?
 >>
 >> This might not be noticable for small transfers, but think about 
much larger transfers....
 >>
 >> Imho: NACK from my side.
 >>
 >> Thanks,
 >> Peter
 >
 > Thanks Peter, a great insight. TPM could share the bus with other
 > devices. Even if this optimizes the performance for TPM it might cause
 > performance issues elsewhere.

Does anyone know of platforms where this occurs?

I suspect (but not sure) that the days of SuperIO connecting floppy 
drives, printer ports, and PS/2 mouse ports on the LPC bus are over, and 
such legacy systems will not have a TPM. Would SuperIO even support the 
special TPM LPC bus cycles?

Even then, the wait states of a mhz speed LPC are likely to be usec,
not noticeable for even a mouse.

Is this a reasonable assumption?

If so, to we affect TPM performance to the point where it's unusable to 
help a case that is unlikely to appear in current platforms?

 >
 > One more viewpoint: TCG must added the burst count for a reason (might
 > be very well related what Peter said). Is ignoring it something that TCG
 > recommends? Not following standard exactly in the driver code sometimes
 > makes sense on *small details* but I would not say that this a small
 > detail...

I checked with the TCG's device driver work group (DDWG).  Both the spec 
editor and 3 TPM vendors - Infineon, Nuvoton, and ST Micro - agreed that 
ignoring burst count may incur wait states but nothing more.  Operations 
will still be successful.

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  parent reply	other threads:[~2017-08-09 20:25 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 25+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2017-08-07 11:46 [PATCH] tpm: improve tpm_tis send() performance by ignoring burstcount Nayna Jain
2017-08-07 11:52 ` Peter Huewe
2017-08-07 14:25   ` Nayna
2017-08-08 21:50     ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2017-08-08 19:11   ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2017-08-09 20:23     ` [tpmdd-devel] " Ken Goldman
2017-08-09 20:43       ` Aw: " Peter Huewe
2017-08-11 21:54         ` Ken Goldman
     [not found]           ` <20170814101046.5hqrkaqmfvl7ugwj@linux.intel.com>
2017-08-16 19:51             ` Ken Goldman
2017-08-09 20:25     ` Ken Goldman [this message]
2017-08-09 21:00       ` Peter Huewe
2017-08-11 11:14         ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2017-08-11 15:30           ` Mimi Zohar
2017-08-14 10:51             ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2017-08-14 10:56               ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2017-08-14 12:03                 ` Mimi Zohar
2017-08-15  6:08                   ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2017-08-14 12:12                 ` Mimi Zohar
2017-08-15  6:09                   ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2017-08-11 21:32         ` Aw: " Ken Goldman
2017-08-13 23:53           ` msuchanek
2017-08-15 22:02             ` Ken Goldman
2017-08-16 10:24               ` Michal Suchánek
2017-08-11 21:42       ` [Linux-ima-devel] " Ken Goldman
2017-08-08 19:07 ` Jarkko Sakkinen

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