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From: James Bottomley <James.Bottomley@HansenPartnership.com>
To: Christian Brauner <christian.brauner@ubuntu.com>,
	Stefan Berger <stefanb@linux.ibm.com>
Cc: linux-integrity@vger.kernel.org, zohar@linux.ibm.com,
	serge@hallyn.com, containers@lists.linux.dev,
	dmitry.kasatkin@gmail.com, ebiederm@xmission.com,
	krzysztof.struczynski@huawei.com, roberto.sassu@huawei.com,
	mpeters@redhat.com, lhinds@redhat.com, lsturman@redhat.com,
	puiterwi@redhat.com, jamjoom@us.ibm.com,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, paul@paul-moore.com,
	rgb@redhat.com, linux-security-module@vger.kernel.org,
	jmorris@namei.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH v4 16/16] ima: Setup securityfs for IMA namespace
Date: Wed, 08 Dec 2021 09:11:09 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <dd43783ae76ad3238d99f75d8aaf95e20ad28b79.camel@HansenPartnership.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20211208125814.hdaghdq7yk5wvvor@wittgenstein>

On Wed, 2021-12-08 at 13:58 +0100, Christian Brauner wrote:
> On Tue, Dec 07, 2021 at 03:21:27PM -0500, Stefan Berger wrote:
[...]
> > @@ -69,6 +74,11 @@ static int securityfs_init_fs_context(struct
> > fs_context *fc)
> >  
> >  static void securityfs_kill_super(struct super_block *sb)
> >  {
> > +	struct user_namespace *ns = sb->s_fs_info;
> > +
> > +	if (ns != &init_user_ns)
> > +		ima_fs_ns_free_dentries(ns);
> 
> Say securityfs is unmounted. Then all the inodes and dentries become
> invalid. It's not allowed to hold on to any dentries or inodes after
> the super_block is shut down. So I just want to be sure that nothing
> in ima can access these dentries after securityfs is unmounted.
> 
> To put it another way: why are they stored in struct ima_namespace in
> the first place? If you don't pin a filesystem when creating files or
> directories like you do for securityfs in init_ima_ns then you don't
> need to hold on to them as they will be automatically be wiped during
> umount.

For IMA this is true because IMA can't be a module.  However, a modular
consumer, like the TPM, must be able to remove its entries from a
mounted securityfs because the code that serves the operations is going
away.  In order to do this removal, it needs the dentries somewhere. 
The current convention seems to be everything has a directory in the
top level, so we could call d_genocide() on this directory and not have
to worry about storing the dentries underneath, but I think we can't
avoid storing the dentry for the top level directory.

James



  parent reply	other threads:[~2021-12-08 14:11 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 40+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2021-12-07 20:21 [PATCH v4 00/16] ima: Namespace IMA with audit support in IMA-ns Stefan Berger
2021-12-07 20:21 ` [PATCH v4 01/16] ima: Add IMA namespace support Stefan Berger
2021-12-08 11:29   ` Christian Brauner
2021-12-08 11:54     ` Christian Brauner
2021-12-08 14:50       ` Stefan Berger
2021-12-07 20:21 ` [PATCH v4 02/16] ima: Define ns_status for storing namespaced iint data Stefan Berger
2021-12-07 20:21 ` [PATCH v4 03/16] ima: Namespace audit status flags Stefan Berger
2021-12-07 20:21 ` [PATCH v4 04/16] ima: Move delayed work queue and variables into ima_namespace Stefan Berger
2021-12-07 20:21 ` [PATCH v4 05/16] ima: Move IMA's keys queue related " Stefan Berger
2021-12-07 20:21 ` [PATCH v4 06/16] ima: Move policy " Stefan Berger
2021-12-07 20:21 ` [PATCH v4 07/16] ima: Move ima_htable " Stefan Berger
2021-12-07 20:21 ` [PATCH v4 08/16] ima: Move measurement list related variables " Stefan Berger
2021-12-07 20:21 ` [PATCH v4 09/16] ima: Only accept AUDIT rules for IMA non-init_ima_ns namespaces for now Stefan Berger
2021-12-07 20:21 ` [PATCH v4 10/16] ima: Implement hierarchical processing of file accesses Stefan Berger
2021-12-08 12:09   ` Christian Brauner
2021-12-08 12:23     ` Christian Brauner
2021-12-08 16:50       ` Stefan Berger
2021-12-08 18:22         ` Stefan Berger
2021-12-15 23:04           ` Mimi Zohar
2021-12-16  2:55             ` Stefan Berger
2021-12-07 20:21 ` [PATCH v4 11/16] securityfs: Only use simple_pin_fs/simple_release_fs for init_user_ns Stefan Berger
2021-12-08 11:58   ` Christian Brauner
2021-12-08 14:03     ` Stefan Berger
2021-12-08 12:46   ` Christian Brauner
2021-12-11 14:16   ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2021-12-11 14:44     ` James Bottomley
2021-12-07 20:21 ` [PATCH v4 12/16] securityfs: Extend securityfs with namespacing support Stefan Berger
2021-12-07 20:21 ` [PATCH v4 13/16] ima: Move some IMA policy and filesystem related variables into ima_namespace Stefan Berger
2021-12-07 20:21 ` [PATCH v4 14/16] ima: Use mac_admin_ns_capable() to check corresponding capability Stefan Berger
2021-12-08 12:40   ` Christian Brauner
2021-12-07 20:21 ` [PATCH v4 15/16] ima: Move dentries into ima_namespace Stefan Berger
2021-12-07 20:21 ` [PATCH v4 16/16] ima: Setup securityfs for IMA namespace Stefan Berger
2021-12-08 12:58   ` Christian Brauner
2021-12-08 13:16     ` Christian Brauner
2021-12-08 14:11     ` James Bottomley [this message]
2021-12-08 14:46       ` Christian Brauner
2021-12-08 15:04         ` James Bottomley
2021-12-08 15:22           ` Christian Brauner
2021-12-08 15:39     ` Stefan Berger
2021-12-08 15:49       ` Christian Brauner

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