From: "David Hildenbrand (Arm)" <david@kernel.org>
To: Jann Horn <jannh@google.com>
Cc: "Paul Moore" <paul@paul-moore.com>,
"James Morris" <jmorris@namei.org>,
"Serge E. Hallyn" <serge@hallyn.com>,
"Stephen Smalley" <stephen.smalley.work@gmail.com>,
"Jeff Xu" <jeffxu@google.com>,
"Thiébaud Weksteen" <tweek@google.com>,
"Alexander Viro" <viro@zeniv.linux.org.uk>,
"Christian Brauner" <brauner@kernel.org>,
"Jan Kara" <jack@suse.cz>,
linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org,
linux-security-module@vger.kernel.org,
"Ondrej Mosnacek" <omosnace@redhat.com>,
selinux@vger.kernel.org,
"Andrew Morton" <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
"Liam R. Howlett" <liam@infradead.org>,
"Lorenzo Stoakes" <ljs@kernel.org>,
"Vlastimil Babka" <vbabka@kernel.org>,
"Pedro Falcato" <pfalcato@suse.de>,
linux-mm@kvack.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH 2/3] proc: query LSMs for introspective mem access (if PROC_MEM_FORCE_ALWAYS)
Date: Fri, 21 Aug 2026 16:18:53 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <dd8c34a9-0e09-453b-88e1-0a5511816627@kernel.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAG48ez2Ngo3=VtyykXY6ynVzGwA8px-p4zV3V6U=YfgV-Hy4BA@mail.gmail.com>
On 8/20/26 20:44, Jann Horn wrote:
> On Thu, Aug 20, 2026 at 7:22 PM David Hildenbrand (Arm)
> <david@kernel.org> wrote:
>> On 8/18/26 21:51, Jann Horn wrote:
>>> If the system is running with PROC_MEM_FORCE_ALWAYS, LSMs currently have no
>>> good opportunity to block a process from overwriting read-only code in its
>>> own address space through FOLL_FORCE writes via /proc/self/mem.
>>> The security_ptrace_access_check() LSM hook is bypassed when a process
>>> opens /proc/self/mem because this is considered "introspection".
>>>
>>> This causes a hole in SELinux EXECMEM enforcement, which tries to ensure
>>> that a process cannot create executable anonymous pages.
>>>
>>> PROC_MEM_FORCE_PTRACE prevents that and ensures that such FOLL_FORCE
>>> accesses are only possible when the LSM allows ptrace() attachment; but it
>>> is unclear how quickly PROC_MEM_FORCE_PTRACE can be deployed in
>>> environments running lots of third-party code, such as Android.
>>>
>>> So, introduce a new LSM hook that can forbid FOLL_FORCE specifically for
>>> such "introspective" accesses.
>>>
>>> Signed-off-by: Jann Horn <jannh@google.com>
>>> ---
>>> fs/proc/base.c | 6 ++++++
>>> include/linux/lsm_hook_defs.h | 1 +
>>> include/linux/security.h | 6 ++++++
>>> security/security.c | 15 +++++++++++++++
>>> 4 files changed, 28 insertions(+)
>>>
>>> diff --git a/fs/proc/base.c b/fs/proc/base.c
>>> index bec6197329dc..3dfaef49bb70 100644
>>> --- a/fs/proc/base.c
>>> +++ b/fs/proc/base.c
>>> @@ -851,6 +851,8 @@ static int __mem_open(struct inode *inode, struct file *file, unsigned int mode)
>>> /* private_data for proc_mem_operations */
>>> struct mem_private {
>>> struct mm_struct *mm;
>>> + /* Was the ptrace access check bypassed due to introspection? */
>>> + bool introspection;
>>> };
>>>
>>> static int mem_open(struct inode *inode, struct file *file)
>>> @@ -864,12 +866,14 @@ static int mem_open(struct inode *inode, struct file *file)
>>> priv->mm = proc_mem_open(inode, PTRACE_MODE_ATTACH);
>>> if (IS_ERR_OR_NULL(priv->mm))
>>> return priv->mm ? PTR_ERR(priv->mm) : -ESRCH;
>>> + priv->introspection = priv->mm == current->mm;
>>
>> Is the feat that the fd could be passed to someone else that would then not be
>> detected as introspection?
>
> Yes, exactly, that's the primary reason why I did it this way.
Okay, would "opened_by_owner" or something like that be clearer? At least
"introspection" is less intuitive for me.
--
Cheers,
David
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2026-08-21 14:19 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 18+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2026-08-18 19:51 [PATCH 0/3] proc,security,selinux: let SELinux block FOLL_FORCE for /proc/self/mem Jann Horn
2026-08-18 19:51 ` [PATCH 1/3] proc: refactor /proc/$pid/mem to use struct as private_data Jann Horn
2026-08-20 11:20 ` Jan Kara
2026-08-20 17:18 ` David Hildenbrand (Arm)
2026-08-21 18:34 ` Lorenzo Stoakes (ARM)
2026-08-18 19:51 ` [PATCH 2/3] proc: query LSMs for introspective mem access (if PROC_MEM_FORCE_ALWAYS) Jann Horn
2026-08-20 17:22 ` David Hildenbrand (Arm)
2026-08-20 18:44 ` Jann Horn
2026-08-21 14:18 ` David Hildenbrand (Arm) [this message]
2026-08-21 14:48 ` Jann Horn
2026-08-21 18:52 ` Lorenzo Stoakes (ARM)
2026-08-21 19:00 ` Lorenzo Stoakes (ARM)
2026-08-18 19:51 ` [PATCH 3/3] selinux: require EXECMEM or PTRACE for FOLL_FORCE introspection Jann Horn
2026-08-19 14:54 ` Stephen Smalley
2026-08-20 15:23 ` Jann Horn
2026-08-21 13:52 ` Stephen Smalley
2026-08-21 15:07 ` Jann Horn
2026-08-21 18:56 ` Lorenzo Stoakes (ARM)
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