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From: Lakshmi Ramasubramanian <nramas@linux.microsoft.com>
To: Ondrej Mosnacek <omosnace@redhat.com>,
	Stephen Smalley <stephen.smalley.work@gmail.com>
Cc: Mimi Zohar <zohar@linux.ibm.com>,
	Casey Schaufler <casey@schaufler-ca.com>,
	Tyler Hicks <tyhicks@linux.microsoft.com>,
	tusharsu@linux.microsoft.com, Sasha Levin <sashal@kernel.org>,
	James Morris <jmorris@namei.org>,
	linux-integrity@vger.kernel.org,
	SElinux list <selinux@vger.kernel.org>,
	LSM List <linux-security-module@vger.kernel.org>,
	linux-kernel <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] SELinux: Measure state and hash of policy using IMA
Date: Mon, 24 Aug 2020 14:29:13 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <f041e8ee-3955-9551-b72d-d4d7fa6e636d@linux.microsoft.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAFqZXNvVQ5U6Ea3gT32Z0hfWbu7GPR-mTF2z6-JZZJT57Heuuw@mail.gmail.com>

On 8/24/20 1:01 PM, Ondrej Mosnacek wrote:
> On Mon, Aug 24, 2020 at 9:30 PM Stephen Smalley
> <stephen.smalley.work@gmail.com> wrote:
>> On Mon, Aug 24, 2020 at 2:13 PM Lakshmi Ramasubramanian
>> <nramas@linux.microsoft.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> On 8/24/20 7:00 AM, Stephen Smalley wrote:
>>>
>>>>> +int security_read_policy_kernel(struct selinux_state *state,
>>>>> +                               void **data, size_t *len)
>>>>> +{
>>>>> +       int rc;
>>>>> +
>>>>> +       rc = security_read_policy_len(state, len);
>>>>> +       if (rc)
>>>>> +               return rc;
>>>>> +
>>>>> +       *data = vmalloc(*len);
>>>>> +       if (!*data)
>>>>> +               return -ENOMEM;
>>>>>
>>>>> +       return security_read_selinux_policy(state, data, len);
>>>>>    }
>>>>
>>>> See the discussion here:
>>>> https://lore.kernel.org/selinux/20200824113015.1375857-1-omosnace@redhat.com/T/#t
>>>>
>>>> In order for this to be safe, you need to ensure that all callers of
>>>> security_read_policy_kernel() have taken fsi->mutex in selinuxfs and
>>>> any use of security_read_policy_len() occurs while holding the mutex.
>>>> Otherwise, the length can change between security_read_policy_len()
>>>> and security_read_selinux_policy() if policy is reloaded.
>>>>
>>>
>>> "struct selinux_fs_info" is available when calling
>>> security_read_policy_kernel() - currently in measure.c.
>>> Only "struct selinux_state" is.
>>>
>>> Is Ondrej's re-try approach I need to use to workaround policy reload issue?
>>
>> No, I think perhaps we should move the mutex to selinux_state instead
>> of selinux_fs_info.  selinux_fs_info has a pointer to selinux_state so
>> it can then use it indirectly.  Note that your patches are going to
>> conflict with other ongoing work in the selinux next branch that is
>> refactoring policy load and converting the policy rwlock to RCU.
> 
> Yeah, and I'm experimenting with a patch on top of Stephen's RCU work
> that would allow you to do this in a straightforward way without even
> messing with the fsi->mutex. My patch may or may not be eventually
> committed, but either way I'd recommend holding off on this for a
> while until the dust settles around the RCU conversion.
> 

I can make the SELinux\IMA changes in "selinux next branch" taking 
dependencies on Stephen's patches + relevant IMA patches.

Could you please let me know the URL to the "selinux next branch"?

thanks,
  -lakshmi


  reply	other threads:[~2020-08-24 21:29 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 20+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2020-08-22  1:00 [PATCH] SELinux: Measure state and hash of policy using IMA Lakshmi Ramasubramanian
2020-08-24 14:00 ` Stephen Smalley
2020-08-24 14:35   ` Lakshmi Ramasubramanian
2020-08-24 18:13   ` Lakshmi Ramasubramanian
2020-08-24 19:29     ` Stephen Smalley
2020-08-24 20:01       ` Ondrej Mosnacek
2020-08-24 21:29         ` Lakshmi Ramasubramanian [this message]
2020-08-24 22:18           ` Paul Moore
2020-08-25 20:49             ` Lakshmi Ramasubramanian
2020-08-26 12:51               ` Stephen Smalley
2020-08-31 14:47                 ` Stephen Smalley
2020-08-31 16:39                   ` Lakshmi Ramasubramanian
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2020-09-07 21:38 Lakshmi Ramasubramanian
2020-09-07 22:32 ` Stephen Smalley
2020-09-08  4:44   ` Lakshmi Ramasubramanian
2020-09-08 11:58     ` Stephen Smalley
2020-09-08 16:01       ` Lakshmi Ramasubramanian
2020-09-08 12:28 ` Stephen Smalley
2020-09-08 12:35   ` Stephen Smalley
2020-09-08 13:03   ` Ondrej Mosnacek

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