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From: Roberto Sassu <roberto.sassu@huaweicloud.com>
To: "Seth Forshee (DigitalOcean)" <sforshee@kernel.org>
Cc: Christian Brauner <brauner@kernel.org>,
	Serge Hallyn <serge@hallyn.com>, Paul Moore <paul@paul-moore.com>,
	Eric Paris <eparis@redhat.com>, James Morris <jmorris@namei.org>,
	 Alexander Viro <viro@zeniv.linux.org.uk>,
	Jan Kara <jack@suse.cz>,
	Stephen Smalley <stephen.smalley.work@gmail.com>,
	Ondrej Mosnacek <omosnace@redhat.com>,
	 Casey Schaufler <casey@schaufler-ca.com>,
	Mimi Zohar <zohar@linux.ibm.com>,
	Roberto Sassu <roberto.sassu@huawei.com>,
	 Dmitry Kasatkin <dmitry.kasatkin@gmail.com>,
	Eric Snowberg <eric.snowberg@oracle.com>,
	"Matthew Wilcox (Oracle)" <willy@infradead.org>,
	Jonathan Corbet <corbet@lwn.net>,
	Miklos Szeredi <miklos@szeredi.hu>,
	Amir Goldstein <amir73il@gmail.com>,
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	 selinux@vger.kernel.org, linux-integrity@vger.kernel.org,
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Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 14/25] evm: add support for fscaps security hooks
Date: Fri, 01 Mar 2024 16:04:11 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <f1b1b5a46fb07cd64e095bb4a224adbf2e6baab6.camel@huaweicloud.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <ZeHotBrI0aYd2HeA@do-x1extreme>

On Fri, 2024-03-01 at 08:39 -0600, Seth Forshee (DigitalOcean) wrote:
> On Fri, Mar 01, 2024 at 10:19:13AM +0100, Roberto Sassu wrote:
> > On Wed, 2024-02-21 at 15:24 -0600, Seth Forshee (DigitalOcean) wrote:
> > > Support the new fscaps security hooks by converting the vfs_caps to raw
> > > xattr data and then handling them the same as other xattrs.
> > 
> > Hi Seth
> > 
> > I started looking at this patch set.
> > 
> > The first question I have is if you are also going to update libcap
> > (and also tar, I guess), since both deal with the raw xattr.
> 
> There are no changes needed for userspace; it will still deal with raw
> xattrs. As I mentioned in the cover letter, capabilities tests from
> libcap2, libcap-ng, ltp, and xfstests all pass against this sereies.
> That's with no modifications to userspace.

Yes, figured it out after applying the patch set. Then yes, IMA/EVM
tests should work too.

> > From IMA/EVM perspective (Mimi will add on that), I guess it is
> > important that files with a signature/HMAC continue to be accessible
> > after applying this patch set.
> > 
> > Looking at the code, it seems the case (if I understood correctly,
> > vfs_getxattr_alloc() is still allowed).
> 
> So this is something that would change based on Christian's request to
> stop using the xattr handlers entirely for fscaps as was done for acls.
> I see how this would impact EVM, but we should be able to deal with it.
> 
> I am a little curious now about this code in evm_calc_hmac_or_hash():
> 
> 		size = vfs_getxattr_alloc(&nop_mnt_idmap, dentry, xattr->name,
> 					  &xattr_value, xattr_size, GFP_NOFS);
> 		if (size == -ENOMEM) {
> 			error = -ENOMEM;
> 			goto out;
> 		}
> 		if (size < 0)
> 			continue;
> 
> 		user_space_size = vfs_getxattr(&nop_mnt_idmap, dentry,
> 					       xattr->name, NULL, 0);
> 		if (user_space_size != size)
> 			pr_debug("file %s: xattr %s size mismatch (kernel: %d, user: %d)\n",
> 				 dentry->d_name.name, xattr->name, size,
> 				 user_space_size);
> 
> Because with the current fscaps code you actually could end up getting
> different sizes from these two interfaces, as vfs_getxattr_alloc() reads
> the xattr directly from disk but vfs_getxattr() goes through
> cap_inode_getsecurity(), which may do conversion between v2 and v3
> formats which are different sizes.

Yes, that was another source of confusion. It happened that
security.selinux in the disk was without '\0', and the one from
vfs_getxattr() had it (of course the HMAC wouldn't match).

So, basically, you set something in user space and you get something
different.

Example:

# setfattr -n security.selinux -v "unconfined_u:object_r:admin_home_t:s0" test-file

SELinux active:
# getfattr -m - -d -e hex test-file
security.selinux=0x756e636f6e66696e65645f753a6f626a6563745f723a61646d696e5f686f6d655f743a733000

Smack active:
# getfattr -m - -d -e hex test-file
security.selinux=0x756e636f6e66696e65645f753a6f626a6563745f723a61646d696e5f686f6d655f743a7330


evmctl (will) allow to provide a hex xattr value for fscaps. That
should be the one to be used (and vfs_getxattr_alloc() does that).
However, I guess if the conversion happens, evmctl cannot correctly
verify anymore the file, unless the same string is specified for
verification (otherwise it reads the xattr through vfs_getxattr(),
which would be different).

Roberto


  reply	other threads:[~2024-03-01 15:04 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 87+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2024-02-21 21:24 [PATCH v2 00/25] fs: use type-safe uid representation for filesystem capabilities Seth Forshee (DigitalOcean)
2024-02-21 21:24 ` [PATCH v2 01/25] mnt_idmapping: split out core vfs[ug]id_t definitions into vfsid.h Seth Forshee (DigitalOcean)
2024-02-22 14:09   ` Christian Brauner
2024-02-21 21:24 ` [PATCH v2 02/25] mnt_idmapping: include cred.h Seth Forshee (DigitalOcean)
2024-02-22 14:12   ` Christian Brauner
2024-02-21 21:24 ` [PATCH v2 03/25] capability: add static asserts for comapatibility of vfs_cap_data and vfs_ns_cap_data Seth Forshee (DigitalOcean)
2024-02-22 14:23   ` Christian Brauner
2024-02-21 21:24 ` [PATCH v2 04/25] capability: rename cpu_vfs_cap_data to vfs_caps Seth Forshee (DigitalOcean)
2024-02-21 21:24 ` [PATCH v2 05/25] capability: use vfsuid_t for vfs_caps rootids Seth Forshee (DigitalOcean)
2024-02-22 14:25   ` Christian Brauner
2024-02-21 21:24 ` [PATCH v2 06/25] capability: provide helpers for converting between xattrs and vfs_caps Seth Forshee (DigitalOcean)
2024-02-22 15:20   ` Christian Brauner
2024-02-22 15:38     ` Seth Forshee (DigitalOcean)
2024-02-23  8:08       ` Christian Brauner
2024-03-01 16:30   ` Roberto Sassu
2024-03-01 19:00     ` Seth Forshee (DigitalOcean)
2024-03-04  8:33       ` Roberto Sassu
2024-03-04 14:24         ` Seth Forshee (DigitalOcean)
2024-02-21 21:24 ` [PATCH v2 07/25] capability: provide a helper for converting vfs_caps to xattr for userspace Seth Forshee (DigitalOcean)
2024-02-22 15:22   ` Christian Brauner
2024-02-21 21:24 ` [PATCH v2 08/25] xattr: add is_fscaps_xattr() helper Seth Forshee (DigitalOcean)
2024-02-23  8:09   ` Christian Brauner
2024-02-21 21:24 ` [PATCH v2 09/25] commoncap: use is_fscaps_xattr() Seth Forshee (DigitalOcean)
2024-02-23  8:10   ` Christian Brauner
2024-02-21 21:24 ` [PATCH v2 10/25] xattr: " Seth Forshee (DigitalOcean)
2024-02-23  8:10   ` Christian Brauner
2024-02-21 21:24 ` [PATCH v2 11/25] security: add hooks for set/get/remove of fscaps Seth Forshee (DigitalOcean)
2024-02-21 23:31   ` Paul Moore
2024-02-22  0:07     ` Seth Forshee (DigitalOcean)
2024-02-23  8:23   ` Christian Brauner
2024-03-01 15:59   ` Roberto Sassu
2024-03-01 18:50     ` Seth Forshee (DigitalOcean)
2024-02-21 21:24 ` [PATCH v2 12/25] selinux: add hooks for fscaps operations Seth Forshee (DigitalOcean)
2024-02-21 23:38   ` Paul Moore
2024-02-22  0:10     ` Seth Forshee (DigitalOcean)
2024-02-22  0:19       ` Paul Moore
2024-02-22  0:28         ` Seth Forshee (DigitalOcean)
2024-02-21 21:24 ` [PATCH v2 13/25] smack: " Seth Forshee (DigitalOcean)
2024-02-21 22:52   ` Casey Schaufler
2024-02-22  0:11     ` Seth Forshee (DigitalOcean)
2024-02-21 21:24 ` [PATCH v2 14/25] evm: add support for fscaps security hooks Seth Forshee (DigitalOcean)
2024-03-01  9:19   ` Roberto Sassu
2024-03-01 12:54     ` Christian Brauner
2024-03-01 13:19       ` Roberto Sassu
2024-03-01 13:39         ` Christian Brauner
2024-03-01 14:39     ` Seth Forshee (DigitalOcean)
2024-03-01 15:04       ` Roberto Sassu [this message]
2024-03-04 15:01   ` Roberto Sassu
2024-02-21 21:24 ` [PATCH v2 15/25] security: call evm fscaps hooks from generic " Seth Forshee (DigitalOcean)
2024-02-21 23:43   ` Paul Moore
2024-02-22  0:20     ` Seth Forshee (DigitalOcean)
2024-02-22  0:37       ` Paul Moore
2024-02-21 21:24 ` [PATCH v2 16/25] fs: add inode operations to get/set/remove fscaps Seth Forshee (DigitalOcean)
2024-02-23  8:25   ` Christian Brauner
2024-02-21 21:24 ` [PATCH v2 17/25] fs: add vfs_get_fscaps() Seth Forshee (DigitalOcean)
2024-02-23  8:28   ` Christian Brauner
2024-02-21 21:24 ` [PATCH v2 18/25] fs: add vfs_set_fscaps() Seth Forshee (DigitalOcean)
2024-02-23  8:38   ` Christian Brauner
2024-02-21 21:24 ` [PATCH v2 19/25] fs: add vfs_remove_fscaps() Seth Forshee (DigitalOcean)
2024-02-23  8:40   ` Christian Brauner
2024-02-21 21:24 ` [PATCH v2 20/25] ovl: add fscaps handlers Seth Forshee (DigitalOcean)
2024-02-23  9:04   ` Christian Brauner
2024-02-27 13:28   ` Amir Goldstein
2024-02-27 14:57     ` Seth Forshee (DigitalOcean)
2024-02-21 21:24 ` [PATCH v2 21/25] ovl: use vfs_{get,set}_fscaps() for copy-up Seth Forshee (DigitalOcean)
2024-02-21 21:24 ` [PATCH v2 22/25] fs: use vfs interfaces for capabilities xattrs Seth Forshee (DigitalOcean)
2024-02-21 21:24 ` [PATCH v2 23/25] commoncap: remove cap_inode_getsecurity() Seth Forshee (DigitalOcean)
2024-02-21 21:24 ` [PATCH v2 24/25] commoncap: use vfs fscaps interfaces Seth Forshee (DigitalOcean)
2024-03-04 10:19   ` Roberto Sassu
2024-03-04 15:31     ` Seth Forshee (DigitalOcean)
2024-03-04 16:17       ` Roberto Sassu
2024-03-04 16:56         ` Seth Forshee (DigitalOcean)
2024-03-05  9:12           ` Christian Brauner
2024-03-05 12:46             ` Roberto Sassu
2024-03-05 16:26               ` Christian Brauner
2024-03-05 16:35                 ` Roberto Sassu
2024-03-05 17:03                   ` Seth Forshee (DigitalOcean)
2024-03-05 17:08                     ` Roberto Sassu
2024-03-05 17:11               ` Roberto Sassu
2024-03-05 20:17                 ` Seth Forshee (DigitalOcean)
2024-03-06  8:30                   ` Roberto Sassu
2024-03-06  2:17                 ` Mimi Zohar
2024-03-06  8:25                   ` Roberto Sassu
2024-03-06 12:56                     ` Mimi Zohar
2024-02-21 21:24 ` [PATCH v2 25/25] vfs: return -EOPNOTSUPP for fscaps from vfs_*xattr() Seth Forshee (DigitalOcean)
2024-02-22 15:27 ` [PATCH v2 00/25] fs: use type-safe uid representation for filesystem capabilities Christian Brauner
2024-02-22 16:28   ` Seth Forshee (DigitalOcean)

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