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charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit On 10/1/24 11:22, Paul Moore wrote: > On Tue, Oct 1, 2024 at 12:36 PM Linus Torvalds > wrote: >> On Tue, 1 Oct 2024 at 07:00, Paul Moore wrote: >>> >>> Linus, it's unclear if you're still following this thread after the >>> pull, but can you provide a little insight on your thoughts here? > > ... > >> If the consensus is that we should revert, I'll happily revert. > > Starting tomorrow when I'm reliably back in front of computer I'll > sort this out with the rest of the LSM folks. Unless something > unexpected comes up in the discussion I'll send you a revert later > this week. > I agree that this is the wrong approach and will add that it is egregious enough that Ubuntu is going to have to disable Tomoyo as it effectively allows by-passing signed module loads. you can add my Acked-by: John Johansen >> This >> was all inside of the tomoyo subdirectory, so I didn't see it as some >> kind of sidestepping, and treated the pull request as a regular >> "another odd security subsystem update". > > Yes, that's fair, I think you would need a deeper understanding of the > LSM framework as well as an understanding of recent discussions on the > list to appreciate all of the details. >