From: Mimi Zohar <zohar@linux.ibm.com>
To: Eric Snowberg <eric.snowberg@oracle.com>
Cc: David Howells <dhowells@redhat.com>,
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Subject: Re: [PATCH 0/7] Add CA enforcement keyring restrictions
Date: Fri, 08 Apr 2022 10:41:26 -0400 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <fd5e88eb66db909ddc9f2fe6d788465a51a979b4.camel@linux.ibm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <8ECDC8D2-433B-4F7E-9EEC-BB85C75ED198@oracle.com>
On Wed, 2022-04-06 at 22:53 +0000, Eric Snowberg wrote:
>
> > On Apr 6, 2022, at 2:45 PM, Mimi Zohar <zohar@linux.ibm.com> wrote:
> >
> > Hi Eric,
> >
> > On Tue, 2022-04-05 at 21:53 -0400, Eric Snowberg wrote:
> >> A key added to the ima keyring must be signed by a key contained within
> >> either the builtin trusted or secondary trusted keyrings. Currently, there are
> >> CA restrictions described in IMA_KEYRINGS_PERMIT_SIGNED_BY_BUILTIN_OR_SECONDARY,
> >> but these restrictions are not enforced within code. Therefore, keys within
> >> either the builtin or secondary may not be a CA and could be used to
> >> vouch for an ima key.
> >>
> >> The machine keyring can not be used as another trust anchor for adding keys
> >> to the ima keyring, since CA enforcement does not currently exist [1]. This
> >> would expand the current integrity gap.
> >>
> >> Introduce a new root of trust key flag to close this integrity gap for
> >> all keyrings. The first key type to use this is X.509. When a X.509
> >> certificate is self signed, contains kernCertSign Key Usage and contains
> >> the CA bit, the new flag is set. Introduce new keyring restrictions
> >> that not only validates a key is signed by a key contained within the
> >> keyring, but also validates the key has the new root of trust key flag
> >> set. Use this new restriction for keys added to the ima keyring. Now
> >> that we have CA enforcement, allow the machine keyring to be used as another
> >> trust anchor for the ima keyring.
> >>
> >> To recap, all keys that previously loaded into the builtin, secondary or
> >> machine keyring will still load after applying this series. Keys
> >> contained within these keyrings may carry the root of trust flag. The
> >> ima keyring will use the new root of trust restriction to validate
> >> CA enforcement. Other keyrings that require a root of trust could also
> >> use this in the future.
> >
> > Your initial patch set indicated that you were addressing Linus'
> > request to allow end-users the ability "to add their own keys and sign
> > modules they trust". However, from the design of the previous patch
> > set and now this one, everything indicates a lot more is going on than
> > just allowing end-users to add their own keys. There would be no
> > reason for loading all the MOK keys, rather than just the CA keys, onto
> > the "machine" keyring. Please provide the motivation for this design.
>
> The motivation is to satisfy both Linus and your requests. Linus requested
> the ability to allow users to add their own keys and sign modules they trust.
> A code signing CA certificate does not require kernCertSign in the usage. Adding
> this as a requirement for kernel modules would be a regression (or a bug).
Of course a code signing CA certificate should not also be a
certificate signing key (keyCertSign). Remember the
"builtin_trusted_keys" and "secondary_trusted_keys" keyrings are
special. Their root of trust is based on a secure boot signature chain
of trust up to and including a signed kernel image. The "machine"
keyring is totally different in this regard. Establishing a new root
of trust is really difficult. Requiring a root-CA to have key
certifcate signing usage is a level of indirection, which I would
consider a small price to pay for being able to establish a, hopefully
safe or at least safer, new root of trust for trusting "end-user" keys.
>
> This series addresses your request to only trust validly signed CA certs.
> As you pointed out in the Kconfig help for
> IMA_KEYRINGS_PERMIT_SIGNED_BY_BUILTIN_OR_SECONDARY:
>
> help
> Keys may be added to the IMA or IMA blacklist keyrings, if the
> key is validly signed by a CA cert in the system built-in or
> secondary trusted keyrings.
>
> Intermediate keys between those the kernel has compiled in and the
> IMA keys to be added may be added to the system secondary keyring,
> provided they are validly signed by a key already resident in the
> built-in or secondary trusted keyrings.
>
> requires keys to be “validly” signed by a CA cert. Later the definition of a
> validly signed CA cert was defined as: self signed, contains kernCertSign
> key usage and contains the CA bit. While this help file states the CA restriction,
> nothing in code enforces it. One can place any type of self signed cert in either
> keyring and ima will use it. The motivation is for all keys added to the ima
> keyring to abide by the restriction defined in the Kconfig help. With this series
> this can be accomplished without introducing a regression on keys placed in
> any of the system keyrings.
>
> > Please note that Patch 6/7 permits intermediary CA keys, without any
> > mention of it in the cover letter. Please include this in the
> > motivation for this design.
>
> Ok, I’ll add that in the next round.
Your cover letter should say that this patch series enables
verification of 3rd party modules.
thanks,
Mimi
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2022-04-08 14:41 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 32+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2022-04-06 1:53 [PATCH 0/7] Add CA enforcement keyring restrictions Eric Snowberg
2022-04-06 1:53 ` [PATCH 1/7] KEYS: Create static version of public_key_verify_signature Eric Snowberg
2022-04-06 1:53 ` [PATCH 2/7] KEYS: X.509: Parse Basic Constraints for CA Eric Snowberg
2022-04-08 14:39 ` Mimi Zohar
2022-04-08 15:31 ` Eric Snowberg
2022-04-06 1:53 ` [PATCH 3/7] KEYS: X.509: Parse Key Usage Eric Snowberg
2022-04-08 14:39 ` Mimi Zohar
2022-04-06 1:53 ` [PATCH 4/7] KEYS: Introduce a builtin root of trust key flag Eric Snowberg
2022-04-08 14:40 ` Mimi Zohar
2022-04-08 15:27 ` Eric Snowberg
2022-04-08 16:55 ` Mimi Zohar
2022-04-08 17:34 ` Eric Snowberg
2022-04-08 18:49 ` Mimi Zohar
2022-04-08 21:59 ` Eric Snowberg
2022-04-11 15:30 ` Mimi Zohar
2022-04-14 16:36 ` Eric Snowberg
2022-04-14 18:09 ` Mimi Zohar
2022-04-14 21:59 ` Eric Snowberg
2022-04-15 16:14 ` Mimi Zohar
2022-04-06 1:53 ` [PATCH 5/7] KEYS: Introduce sig restriction that validates root of trust Eric Snowberg
2022-04-06 19:55 ` kernel test robot
2022-04-06 1:53 ` [PATCH 6/7] KEYS: X.509: Flag Intermediate CA certs as built in Eric Snowberg
2022-04-07 1:04 ` kernel test robot
2022-04-06 1:53 ` [PATCH 7/7] integrity: Use root of trust signature restriction Eric Snowberg
2022-04-06 20:45 ` [PATCH 0/7] Add CA enforcement keyring restrictions Mimi Zohar
2022-04-06 22:53 ` Eric Snowberg
2022-04-08 14:41 ` Mimi Zohar [this message]
2022-11-04 13:20 ` Coiby Xu
2022-11-04 21:06 ` Eric Snowberg
2022-11-09 1:24 ` Elaine Palmer
2022-11-09 14:25 ` Eric Snowberg
2022-11-09 14:58 ` Elaine Palmer
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