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From: "Tosoni" <jp.tosoni@acksys.fr>
To: 'Lee Howard' <faxguy@howardsilvan.com>, linux-serial@vger.kernel.org
Subject: RE: serial flow control appears broken
Date: Thu, 26 Jul 2007 17:51:44 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <000b01c7cf9c$de574ea0$2e01a8c0@acksys.local> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <46A7FE6A.4030309@howardsilvan.com>

Trivial check:

Did you set the CRTSCTS flag in the c_cflag parameter to tcsetattr() in your
linux application code ? Or in the corresponding ioctl(..., TCSETA,...) call
?


> -----Original Message-----
> From: linux-serial-owner@vger.kernel.org
> [mailto:linux-serial-owner@vger.kernel.org]On Behalf Of Lee Howard
> Sent: Thursday, July 26, 2007 3:53 AM
> To: linux-serial@vger.kernel.org; tytso@mit.edu; rmk@arm.linux.org.uk;
> linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
> Subject: serial flow control appears broken
>
>
> Hello.
>
> I have fax modems that will, in their proper behavior with certain
> features, send up to 64 kilobytes of data to the host DTE all
> at once.
> (So, the fax modem handles an incoming fax and periodically will send
> between 256 bytes and 64 kilobytes of data in bursts.)
>
> When the DCE-DTE (modem-to-host) communication rate is established at
> 115200 bps data loss occurs systems using at least Linux
> kernels 2.6.5
> and 2.6.18 (and probably everything in-beween and then some
> more).  This
> is because the modem overflows the host's buffer.  This is
> evidenced in
> kernel logging:
>
> Jul 23 14:01:30 gollum kernel: ttyS1: 1 input overrun(s)
> Jul 23 17:09:45 gollum kernel: ttyS1: 1 input overrun(s)
>
> Normally I would blame the modem itself for not honoring the
> host's flow
> control signals.  However, I have worked with the modem manufacturer
> closely on this matter for over three months now.  In that
> process they
> have improved the responsiveness of the modem and have fixed other
> problems, but the end result is that it truly does appear that the
> serial tty driver is not using flow control.  Whether software flow
> control (XON/XOFF) or hardware flow control (RTS/CTS) is used
> the result
> is the same.
>
> This is evidenced in hardware flow control by a little LED
> labeled "RTS"
> that is on the external modem.  This LED lights up when pin 7
> of the DB9
> serial connection is given +12Vdc current (signalling "RTS"
> is on - that
> the host can accept data).  The LED goes dark when the current is
> removed (signalling that the host cannot accept data).  This
> "RTS" LED
> never flickers at all, as it should, when receiving these
> bursts of data
> - the LED stays lit as long as the serial cable is connected to the
> host... and yet I will see those "input overrun" messages.  Thus, it
> seems quite clear that the Linux serial tty driver is not deasserting
> RTS as it should in hardware flow control.  (And probably the
> analogous
> problem exists in software flow control, too.)
>
> Please tell me what I can do to help you resove and/or remedy this
> matter.  Also, please let me know if I have contacted the
> wrong people.
> (I have cross-posted to linux-kernel as a catch-all.  I am not
> subscribed to either linux-serial or linux-kernel mailing lists.  So
> please CC me in any list responses.)
>
> If it is of any value to know (perhaps they have common
> code?), the same
> error occurs on FreeBSD 6.2 as well.   The problem does not occur on
> Windows.  The problem does not occur on RedHat 6.0 (kernel 2.2.5).
>
> Thanks,
>
> Lee.
>
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  parent reply	other threads:[~2007-07-26 16:13 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 56+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2007-07-26  1:52 serial flow control appears broken Lee Howard
2007-07-26 12:34 ` Uwe Kleine-König
2007-07-26 16:28   ` Lee Howard
2007-07-26 16:41     ` Alan Cox
2007-07-27  6:17       ` Lee Howard
2007-07-27 11:56         ` Alan Cox
2007-07-27 18:00           ` Lee Howard
2007-07-26 15:51 ` Tosoni [this message]
2007-07-26 16:31   ` Lee Howard
     [not found] <fa.Z6O0xFRT69zes0Mg+agt3Uiwux4@ifi.uio.no>
2007-07-26  7:20 ` Robert Hancock
2007-07-26 16:08   ` Lee Howard
2007-07-26 16:31     ` Alan Cox
2007-07-27  5:53       ` Lee Howard
2007-07-27 11:47         ` Alan Cox
2007-07-27 17:36           ` Lee Howard
2007-07-27 13:45         ` Tilman Schmidt
2007-07-27 19:34           ` Paul Fulghum
2007-07-27 20:48             ` Lee Howard
2007-07-27 23:28               ` Paul Fulghum
2007-07-28  4:51                 ` Lee Howard
2007-07-28  9:18                   ` Russell King
2007-07-28 12:00                   ` Alan Cox
2007-07-28 15:39                     ` Lee Howard
2007-08-01 21:54                       ` Frantisek Rysanek
2007-07-28 16:41                   ` Ray Lee
2007-08-04 18:21                     ` Lee Howard
2007-08-04 22:07                       ` Paul Fulghum
2007-08-05  0:00                         ` Lee Howard
2007-08-05 14:52                           ` Paul Fulghum
2007-07-27 19:34           ` Paul Fulghum
2007-07-27 20:05           ` Lee Howard
2007-07-27 11:32     ` Maciej W. Rozycki
2007-07-27 17:11       ` Lee Howard
2007-07-27 17:41         ` Alan Cox
2007-07-27 17:53         ` Maciej W. Rozycki
2007-07-27 18:11           ` Lee Howard
2007-07-30  9:36             ` Maciej W. Rozycki
2007-07-27 18:22           ` Robert Hancock
2007-07-27 18:46             ` Paul Fulghum
2007-07-27 19:05             ` Paul Fulghum
2007-07-30  9:39               ` Maciej W. Rozycki
2007-07-27 19:14             ` Paul Fulghum
2007-07-28  9:28             ` Russell King
2007-07-30  9:45               ` Maciej W. Rozycki
2007-07-30  9:59                 ` Russell King
2007-08-02 14:57                 ` Mark Lord
2007-08-02 16:14                   ` Robert Hancock
2007-08-02 16:29                     ` Mark Lord
2007-08-02 16:40                       ` Robert Hancock
2007-08-02 17:13                       ` Alan Cox
2007-08-04 19:38                       ` Lee Howard
2007-08-02 16:57                     ` Alan Cox
2007-08-02 17:02                       ` Robert Hancock
2007-08-03  9:32                       ` Maciej W. Rozycki
2007-07-30  9:34             ` Maciej W. Rozycki
2007-08-04 18:19           ` Lee Howard

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