From: Russell King <rmk+lkml@arm.linux.org.uk>
To: "Maciej W. Rozycki" <macro@linux-mips.org>
Cc: Robert Hancock <hancockr@shaw.ca>,
Lee Howard <faxguy@howardsilvan.com>,
linux-serial@vger.kernel.org, tytso@mit.edu,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: serial flow control appears broken
Date: Mon, 30 Jul 2007 10:59:33 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20070730095933.GA20417@flint.arm.linux.org.uk> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.64N.0707301040320.12082@blysk.ds.pg.gda.pl>
On Mon, Jul 30, 2007 at 10:45:19AM +0100, Maciej W. Rozycki wrote:
> On Sat, 28 Jul 2007, Russell King wrote:
>
> > Essentially, any complex interrupt handler (such as an IDE interrupt
> > doing a multi-sector PIO transfer _in interrupt context_) can cause this
> > kind of starvation. That's why Linux 1.x had bottom halves - so that
> > the time consuming work could be moved out of the interrupt handler,
> > thereby causing minimal the blockage of other interrupts.
> >
> > Unfortunately, that kind of design has been long since forgotten.
> > Apparantly modern machines are fast enough that it doesn't have to be
> > worried about anymore... Or are they?
>
> I would guess it is not that the machines are fast enough, but that this
> two-level processing makes things more complicated. Enough that most
> people would not bother digging into it unless really forced. Only
> occasional latency problems are probably not enough of a force.
It's a shame we don't have a way to measure IRQ latency - it would be
very useful to flag up problems.
I think the best we could do is to arrange for the timer interrupt to
complain if it's delayed by more than 1ms or so - but some architectures
already run their timers with IRQF_DISABLED as a work around some of
the latency issues.
--
Russell King
Linux kernel 2.6 ARM Linux - http://www.arm.linux.org.uk/
maintainer of:
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Thread overview: 56+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
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2007-07-26 7:20 ` serial flow control appears broken Robert Hancock
2007-07-26 16:08 ` Lee Howard
2007-07-26 16:31 ` Alan Cox
2007-07-27 5:53 ` Lee Howard
2007-07-27 11:47 ` Alan Cox
2007-07-27 17:36 ` Lee Howard
2007-07-27 13:45 ` Tilman Schmidt
2007-07-27 19:34 ` Paul Fulghum
2007-07-27 20:48 ` Lee Howard
2007-07-27 23:28 ` Paul Fulghum
2007-07-28 4:51 ` Lee Howard
2007-07-28 9:18 ` Russell King
2007-07-28 12:00 ` Alan Cox
2007-07-28 15:39 ` Lee Howard
2007-08-01 21:54 ` Frantisek Rysanek
2007-07-28 16:41 ` Ray Lee
2007-08-04 18:21 ` Lee Howard
2007-08-04 22:07 ` Paul Fulghum
2007-08-05 0:00 ` Lee Howard
2007-08-05 14:52 ` Paul Fulghum
2007-07-27 19:34 ` Paul Fulghum
2007-07-27 20:05 ` Lee Howard
2007-07-27 11:32 ` Maciej W. Rozycki
2007-07-27 17:11 ` Lee Howard
2007-07-27 17:41 ` Alan Cox
2007-07-27 17:53 ` Maciej W. Rozycki
2007-07-27 18:11 ` Lee Howard
2007-07-30 9:36 ` Maciej W. Rozycki
2007-07-27 18:22 ` Robert Hancock
2007-07-27 18:46 ` Paul Fulghum
2007-07-27 19:05 ` Paul Fulghum
2007-07-30 9:39 ` Maciej W. Rozycki
2007-07-27 19:14 ` Paul Fulghum
2007-07-28 9:28 ` Russell King
2007-07-30 9:45 ` Maciej W. Rozycki
2007-07-30 9:59 ` Russell King [this message]
2007-08-02 14:57 ` Mark Lord
2007-08-02 16:14 ` Robert Hancock
2007-08-02 16:29 ` Mark Lord
2007-08-02 16:40 ` Robert Hancock
2007-08-02 17:13 ` Alan Cox
2007-08-04 19:38 ` Lee Howard
2007-08-02 16:57 ` Alan Cox
2007-08-02 17:02 ` Robert Hancock
2007-08-03 9:32 ` Maciej W. Rozycki
2007-07-30 9:34 ` Maciej W. Rozycki
2007-08-04 18:19 ` Lee Howard
2007-07-26 1:52 Lee Howard
2007-07-26 12:34 ` Uwe Kleine-König
2007-07-26 16:28 ` Lee Howard
2007-07-26 16:41 ` Alan Cox
2007-07-27 6:17 ` Lee Howard
2007-07-27 11:56 ` Alan Cox
2007-07-27 18:00 ` Lee Howard
2007-07-26 15:51 ` Tosoni
2007-07-26 16:31 ` Lee Howard
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