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From: Grant Edwards <grant.b.edwards@gmail.com>
To: Peter Hurley <peter@hurleysoftware.com>
Cc: linux-serial@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: API to flush rx fifo?
Date: Fri, 14 Jun 2013 12:39:41 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20130614173941.GA15623@grante> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <51BB4E64.2000705@hurleysoftware.com>

On Fri, Jun 14, 2013 at 01:09:56PM -0400, Peter Hurley wrote:
> On 06/14/2013 12:29 PM, Grant Edwards wrote:
>
> >> Your hardware rx fifo shouldn't have stale data in it because that
> >> should generate an overrun; ie., if the flip buffers cannot accept
> >> data because they're full then the next char pushed when space
> >> becomes available should be a NUL flagged with TTY_OVERRUN.
> >
> > If flow control is enabled, there should be no rx overruns -- that's
> > what flow control is for.  In the scenario above, flow control is
> > enabled (and working).  In order to allow the UART to handle flow
> > control, the UART driver must stop reading data from the rx fifo when
> > the tty layer is "full".  The documentation for the serial core API
> > specifically states that UARTs are allowed to implement flow control
> > in hardware, and the only way that can be done is to alow the rx fifo
> > to fill up when the application stops makeing read() calls and the tty
> > layer fills up.
> >
> > I think in newer kernels instead of explicitly checking for room in
> > the tty layer before unloading the rx fifo, the UART is supposed to
> > rely on the throttle/unthrottle callbacks, but the end result is the
> > same: when the tty layer gets "full", the UART driver stops reading
> > data from the rx fifo, and the rx fifo fills up.
> 
> AFAIK, only USB serial stops reading the rx fifo on throttle;

All the drivers I maintain do that.  It's the only way to get flow
control to work.  For UART with large FIFOs (e.g. 1KB) -- espcially
those attached via USB or Ethernet -- flow control driven by code in
serial_core just doesn't work right: you've got to let the UART handle
it.

> the serial core and other tty drivers continue to empty the rx fifo
> -- throttle only shuts off the transmitter on the other end.
> 
> Without handling throttle/unthrottle, how are you determining that the
> tty layer is "full"?  Return code from tty_insert_flip_xxxx()?

I check tty->receive_room.  What are you supposed to do for kernel
versions that don't have the throttle()/unthrottle() callbacks?

-- 
Grant

  reply	other threads:[~2013-06-14 17:39 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 14+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2013-06-12 20:03 API to flush rx fifo? Grant Edwards
2013-06-14 14:43 ` Peter Hurley
2013-06-14 15:17   ` Grant Edwards
2013-06-14 15:46     ` Peter Hurley
2013-06-14 16:29       ` Grant Edwards
2013-06-14 17:09         ` Peter Hurley
2013-06-14 17:39           ` Grant Edwards [this message]
2013-06-14 18:04             ` Peter Hurley
2013-06-14 19:12               ` Grant Edwards
2013-06-14 20:53                 ` Peter Hurley
2013-06-14 18:41             ` Grant Edwards
2013-06-14 20:19               ` Peter Hurley
2014-02-26 17:14       ` Peter Hurley
2014-02-26 17:51         ` Grant Edwards

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