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From: "Richard W.M. Jones" <rjones@redhat.com>
To: Greg KH <gregkh@linuxfoundation.org>
Cc: jslaby@suse.com, peter@hurleysoftware.com,
	andriy.shevchenko@linux.intel.com, phillip.raffeck@fau.de,
	anton.wuerfel@fau.de, yamada.masahiro@socionext.com,
	matwey@sai.msu.ru, valentinrothberg@gmail.com,
	linux-serial@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	ddutile@redhat.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH] 8250: Hypervisors always export working 16550A UARTs.
Date: Fri, 29 Apr 2016 17:02:57 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20160429160256.GE28599@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20160429155413.GA23477@kroah.com>

On Fri, Apr 29, 2016 at 08:54:13AM -0700, Greg KH wrote:
> You are trying to take a generalized kernel and somehow "know" about the
> hardware ahead of time it is going to run on.  That seems like two
> conflicting requirements, don't you agree?

We would have the 8250 serial port in any kernel.  Even if Fedora
kernel maintainers allowed us to have specialized kernels for each
purpose, I would use the simple ISA serial port here because it allows
us to capture debug messages very early in the boot.  Alternatives
like virtio-console don't allow that.

The kernel does know what hardware it's running on - via the CPUID
hypervisor leaf.  It's also possible for us to tell the kernel about
the hardware using the command line, ACPI[*], DT, etc.  I'd really
like to tell the kernel this is a 16550A, not broken, you don't need
to spend time testing that.

There is prior art here: no_timer_check & lpj=..

Rich.

[*] Although ACPI is really slow, adding another 190ms, and for this
reason I have disabled it for now, but not investigated why it's so
slow.

-- 
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  reply	other threads:[~2016-04-29 16:02 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 14+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2016-04-28 22:18 [PATCH] 8250: Hypervisors always export working 16550A UARTs Richard W.M. Jones
2016-04-28 22:18 ` Richard W.M. Jones
2016-04-28 22:56   ` Greg KH
2016-04-29  8:10     ` Richard W.M. Jones
2016-04-29 15:16       ` Greg KH
2016-04-29 15:37         ` Richard W.M. Jones
2016-04-29 15:54           ` Greg KH
2016-04-29 16:02             ` Richard W.M. Jones [this message]
2016-04-29 17:32               ` Greg KH
2016-04-29 18:14           ` Don Dutile
2016-04-29  0:04 ` Peter Hurley
2016-04-29  7:01 ` Matwey V. Kornilov
2016-04-29  7:41   ` Richard W.M. Jones
2016-04-29 15:15     ` Greg KH

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