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From: Johan Hovold <johan-DgEjT+Ai2ygdnm+yROfE0A@public.gmane.org>
To: Marcel Holtmann <marcel-kz+m5ild9QBg9hUCZPvPmw@public.gmane.org>
Cc: "Johan Hovold" <johan-DgEjT+Ai2ygdnm+yROfE0A@public.gmane.org>,
	"Sebastian Reichel"
	<sebastian.reichel-ZGY8ohtN/8pPYcu2f3hruQ@public.gmane.org>,
	"Frédéric Danis"
	<frederic.danis.oss-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>,
	robh-DgEjT+Ai2ygdnm+yROfE0A@public.gmane.org,
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	hdegoede-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org,
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	linux-serial-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA@public.gmane.org,
	linux-acpi-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA@public.gmane.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH 2/2] ACPI / scan: Fix enumeration for special UART devices
Date: Tue, 10 Oct 2017 09:08:47 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20171010070847.GH4269@localhost> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <E19C0643-85AA-4E80-BCDC-0C01EC0F88C2-kz+m5ild9QBg9hUCZPvPmw@public.gmane.org>

On Mon, Oct 09, 2017 at 08:09:19PM +0200, Marcel Holtmann wrote:
> Hi Johan,
> 
> >>>>>> UART devices is expected to be enumerated by SerDev subsystem.
> >>>>>> 
> >>>>>> During ACPI scan, serial devices behind SPI, I2C or UART buses are not
> >>>>>> enumerated, allowing them to be enumerated by their respective parents.
> >>>>>> 
> >>>>>> Rename *spi_i2c_slave* to *serial_bus_slave* as this will be used for serial
> >>>>>> devices on serial buses (SPI, I2C or UART).
> >>>>>> 
> >>>>>> On Macs an empty ResourceTemplate is returned for uart slaves.
> >>>>>> Instead the device properties "baud", "parity", "dataBits", "stopBits" are
> >>>>>> provided. Add a check for "baud" in acpi_is_serial_bus_slave().
> >>>>>> 
> >>>>>> Signed-off-by: Frédéric Danis <frederic.danis.oss-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
> >>>>> 
> >>>>> So just to reiterate what I just mentioned in a comment to one of Hans's
> >>>>> hci_bcm patches:
> >>>>> 
> >>>>> This one would silently break PM for such devices on any system which
> >>>>> does not have serdev enabled (as the corresponding platform devices
> >>>>> would no longer be registered). And with serdev enabled, hciattach
> >>>>> (btattach) would start failing as the tty device would no longer be
> >>>>> registered (but I assume everyone is aware of that, and fine with it, by
> >>>>> now).
> >>>>> 
> >>>>> Perhaps the hci_bcm driver should start depending on
> >>>>> SERIAL_DEV_CTRL_TTYPORT when ACPI is enabled?
> >>>> 
> >>>> ACPI and DT both need SERIAL_DEV_CTRL_TTYPORT to work properly,
> >>>> since SERIAL_DEV_CTRL_TTYPORT is the only controller implemented
> >>>> for serdev. If any other controller is implemented that one could
> >>>> also be used.
> >>> 
> >>> Not for hci_bcm, right? This particular driver specifically depends on
> >>> SERIAL_DEV_CTRL_TTYPORT for the ACPI devices and not just any (future)
> >>> serdev controller (or currently working systems soon breaks silently).
> >>> 
> >>> I don't think the same is true for the DT case where we do not already
> >>> have child nodes defined in firmware (and in fact, this driver did not
> >>> really support DT before serdev).
> >> 
> >> The serdev ACPI support has been added to the core and not to
> >> the ttyport and the hci_bcm driver only uses functions from the
> >> core. As far as I can see the ACPI part would also work fine with
> >> a different serdev controller.
> > 
> > Indeed, but you need SERIAL_DEV_CTRL_TTYPORT to avoid silently breaking
> > current ACPI setups which breaks when this patch is applied (as these
> > devices all hang off of common serial ports managed by serial core).
> > 
> >> Of course DT and ACPI currently require SERIAL_DEV_CTRL_TTYPORT,
> >> since it's the only serdev controller implementation. Also it
> >> covers most use cases. When SERIAL_DEV_BUS is selected it's
> >> very likely, that you also want SERIAL_DEV_CTRL_TTYPORT.
> > 
> >>>> I wonder if we should just hide SERIAL_DEV_CTRL_TTYPORT and enable
> >>>> it together with SERDEV. I suspect that we won't see any other
> >>>> controller (it would be a UART device, that is not registered as
> >>>> tty device) in the next few years and the extra option seems to
> >>>> confuse people.
> >>> 
> >>> I agree that it is somewhat confusing. But now that we have both,
> >>> perhaps simply having SERIAL_DEV_CTRL_TTYPORT default to "y" when
> >>> SERIAL_DEV_BUS is selected could be a compromise. The Kconfig entry
> >>> might need to be amended as well (e.g. if only to mention that you
> >>> need to select a controller as well).
> >> 
> >> I think we should at least add a default "y" if SERIAL_DEV_BUS.
> > 
> > I'm preparing a patch.
> 
> yes, please prepare a patch since the discussion spans multiple email
> threads now. Lets get this back on track and find a patch that we are
> all happy with.

I submitted a patch amending the serdev Kconfig entries and making
SERIAL_DEV_CTRL_TTYPORT default to Y when serdev support has been
chosen.

While that hopefully reduces the confusion regarding the Kconfig options
somewhat, it's not really a fix for the potential silent hci_bcm
regression that could result from this patch.

[ The problem being that hci-attach would still succeed, but PM would be
broken, when SERIAL_DEV_CTRL_TTYPORT is not set. ]

I mentioned that making HCI_BCM depend on SERIAL_DEV_CTRL_TTYPORT might
be used to avoid this situation, although it is on some level is
conceptually wrong to describe runtime dependencies in Kconfig (cf.
having a USB device driver, depend on a particular host controller
rather than just USB support).

I'll write something like that up in a patch for Bluetooth and you can
decide if you want to apply it to remedy this particular situation,
though.

Johan

  parent reply	other threads:[~2017-10-10  7:08 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 32+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2017-10-04  8:51 [PATCH 0/2] ACPI serdev support Frédéric Danis
2017-10-04  8:51 ` [PATCH 2/2] ACPI / scan: Fix enumeration for special UART devices Frédéric Danis
2017-10-07 11:36   ` Sebastian Reichel
     [not found]   ` <1507107090-15992-3-git-send-email-frederic.danis.oss-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
2017-10-07 15:19     ` Johan Hovold
2017-10-07 22:53       ` Sebastian Reichel
2017-10-08  8:51         ` Marcel Holtmann
2017-10-09  8:59           ` Sebastian Reichel
2017-10-09  7:35         ` Johan Hovold
2017-10-09  8:55           ` Sebastian Reichel
2017-10-09  9:08             ` Johan Hovold
2017-10-09 18:09               ` Marcel Holtmann
     [not found]                 ` <E19C0643-85AA-4E80-BCDC-0C01EC0F88C2-kz+m5ild9QBg9hUCZPvPmw@public.gmane.org>
2017-10-10  7:08                   ` Johan Hovold [this message]
2017-10-05 15:21 ` [PATCH 0/2] ACPI serdev support Marcel Holtmann
2017-10-06  7:33   ` Ian W MORRISON
     [not found]     ` <25008d7b-db06-49ad-033f-63c0b72d9c34-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
2017-10-06  8:16       ` Frédéric Danis
     [not found]         ` <CAFXWsS9uhvB=5r83GC=aA=uujDvxfjnOvEUUviymNEM31fka5Q@mail.gmail.com>
2017-10-06 17:36           ` Frédéric Danis
2017-10-07 15:14             ` Johan Hovold
     [not found] ` <1507107090-15992-1-git-send-email-frederic.danis.oss-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
2017-10-04  8:51   ` [PATCH 1/2] serdev: Add ACPI support Frédéric Danis
2017-10-06 12:33     ` Rob Herring
     [not found]       ` <CAL_JsqKDzR9-ptE=SbL0LuQvTKDNT-GZ8buOvffJDyWz6fHfSA-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2017-10-06 18:32         ` Marcel Holtmann
2017-10-07  0:03           ` Rafael J. Wysocki
     [not found]             ` <CAJZ5v0gLhnisMn9o00ndnB6fjHt5V7KCy_57UScF=ZfZVF=dxA-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2017-10-07  0:31               ` Marcel Holtmann
     [not found]                 ` <E5446B94-9914-44B5-A734-050F7457746D-kz+m5ild9QBg9hUCZPvPmw@public.gmane.org>
2017-10-07  6:42                   ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
     [not found]     ` <1507107090-15992-2-git-send-email-frederic.danis.oss-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
2017-10-07  6:42       ` Greg KH
2017-10-07 11:35       ` Sebastian Reichel
2017-10-07 15:12     ` Johan Hovold
2017-10-10  8:10       ` Marcel Holtmann
2017-10-10  8:15         ` Johan Hovold
2017-10-10  8:22           ` Marcel Holtmann
2017-10-10 16:36             ` Johan Hovold
2017-10-10 23:13               ` Ian W MORRISON
2017-10-10  0:27   ` [PATCH 0/2] ACPI serdev support Rafael J. Wysocki

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