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From: Lee Jones <lee@kernel.org>
To: Greg Kroah-Hartman <gregkh@linuxfoundation.org>
Cc: "Starke, Daniel" <daniel.starke@siemens.com>,
	"linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org" <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Fedor Pchelkin <pchelkin@ispras.ru>,
	Jiri Slaby <jirislaby@kernel.org>,
	"linux-serial@vger.kernel.org" <linux-serial@vger.kernel.org>,
	"syzbot+5f47a8cea6a12b77a876@syzkaller.appspotmail.com" 
	<syzbot+5f47a8cea6a12b77a876@syzkaller.appspotmail.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 1/1] tty: n_gsm: Avoid sleeping during .write() whilst atomic
Date: Thu, 5 Oct 2023 11:43:11 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20231005104311.GG83257@google.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <2023100528-directory-arrogant-2ca9@gregkh>

On Thu, 05 Oct 2023, Greg Kroah-Hartman wrote:

> On Thu, Oct 05, 2023 at 10:03:11AM +0100, Lee Jones wrote:
> > On Wed, 04 Oct 2023, Greg Kroah-Hartman wrote:
> > 
> > > On Wed, Oct 04, 2023 at 01:57:04PM +0100, Lee Jones wrote:
> > > > On Wed, 04 Oct 2023, Greg Kroah-Hartman wrote:
> > > > 
> > > > > On Wed, Oct 04, 2023 at 09:57:20AM +0100, Lee Jones wrote:
> > > > > > On Wed, 04 Oct 2023, Greg Kroah-Hartman wrote:
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > > On Wed, Oct 04, 2023 at 05:59:09AM +0000, Starke, Daniel wrote:
> > > > > > > > > Daniel, any thoughts?
> > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > Our application of this protocol is only with specific modems to enable
> > > > > > > > circuit switched operation (handling calls, selecting/querying networks,
> > > > > > > > etc.) while doing packet switched communication (i.e. IP traffic over PPP).
> > > > > > > > The protocol was developed for such use cases.
> > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > Regarding the issue itself:
> > > > > > > > There was already an attempt to fix all this by switching from spinlocks to
> > > > > > > > mutexes resulting in ~20% performance loss. However, the patch was reverted
> > > > > > > > as it did not handle the T1 timer leading into sleep during atomic within
> > > > > > > > gsm_dlci_t1() on every mutex lock there.
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > That's correct.  When I initially saw this report, my initial thought
> > > > > > was to replace the spinlocks with mutexts, but having read the previous
> > > > > > accepted attempt and it's subsequent reversion I started to think of
> > > > > > other ways to solve this issue.  This solution, unlike the last, does
> > > > > > not involve adding sleep inducing locks into atomic contexts, nor
> > > > > > should it negatively affect performance.
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > There was also a suggestion to fix this in do_con_write() as
> > > > > > > > tty_operations::write() appears to be documented as "not allowed to sleep".
> > > > > > > > The patch for this was rejected. It did not fix the issue within n_gsm.
> > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > Link: https://lore.kernel.org/all/20221203215518.8150-1-pchelkin@ispras.ru/
> > > > > > > > Link: https://lore.kernel.org/all/20221212023530.2498025-1-zengheng4@huawei.com/
> > > > > > > > Link: https://lore.kernel.org/all/5a994a13-d1f2-87a8-09e4-a877e65ed166@kernel.org/
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > Ok, I thought I remembered this, I'll just drop this patch from my
> > > > > > > review queue and wait for a better solution if it ever comes up as this
> > > > > > > isn't a real issue that people are seeing on actual systems, but just a
> > > > > > > syzbot report.
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > What does the "better solution" look like?
> > > > > 
> > > > > One that actually fixes the root problem here (i.e. does not break the
> > > > > recursion loop, or cause a performance decrease for normal users, or
> > > > > prevent this from being bound to the console).
> > > > 
> > > > Does this solution break the recursion loop or affect performance?
> > > 
> > > This solution broke the recursion by returning an error, right?
> > 
> > This is the part I was least sure about.
> > 
> > If this was considered valid and we were to go forward with a solution
> > like this, what would a quality improvement look like?  Should we have
> > stayed in this function and waited for the previous occupant to leave
> > before continuing through ->write()?
> 
> This isn't valid, as it obviously never shows up in real use.
> 
> The real solution should be to prevent binding a console to this line
> discipline as it can not handle the recursion that consoles require for
> the write path.

Would something like this tick that box?

diff --git a/drivers/tty/n_gsm.c b/drivers/tty/n_gsm.c
index 1f3aba607cd51..5c1d2fcd5d9e2 100644
--- a/drivers/tty/n_gsm.c
+++ b/drivers/tty/n_gsm.c
@@ -3716,6 +3716,10 @@ static ssize_t gsmld_write(struct tty_struct *tty, struct file *file,
        if (!gsm)
                return -ENODEV;
 
+       /* The GSM line discipline does not support binding to console */
+       if (strncmp(tty->name, "tty", 3))
+               return -EINVAL;
+
        ret = -ENOBUFS;
        spin_lock_irqsave(&gsm->tx_lock, flags);
        space = tty_write_room(tty);

> Then, if consoles are really needed, the code can be fixed up to handle
> such recursion.  That's not a trivial thing to do, as can be seen by the
 > crazy gyrations that the n_tty line discipline does in its write path...

-- 
Lee Jones [李琼斯]

  reply	other threads:[~2023-10-05 14:47 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 29+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2023-10-03 17:00 [PATCH 1/1] tty: n_gsm: Avoid sleeping during .write() whilst atomic Lee Jones
2023-10-03 18:14 ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2023-10-03 18:55   ` Lee Jones
2023-10-04  6:04     ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2023-10-04  9:09       ` Lee Jones
2023-10-04  9:55         ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2023-10-04 12:19         ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2023-10-04 12:57           ` Lee Jones
2023-10-04 13:13             ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2023-10-05  4:59             ` Jiri Slaby
2023-10-05  6:05               ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2023-10-05  7:26                 ` Lee Jones
2023-10-04  5:59   ` Starke, Daniel
2023-10-04  6:05     ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2023-10-04  8:40       ` Jiri Slaby
2023-10-04  8:58         ` Starke, Daniel
2023-10-04  8:57       ` Lee Jones
2023-10-04 12:21         ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2023-10-04 12:57           ` Lee Jones
2023-10-04 13:14             ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2023-10-05  9:03               ` Lee Jones
2023-10-05  9:18                 ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2023-10-05 10:43                   ` Lee Jones [this message]
2023-10-05 11:33                     ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2023-10-05 11:38                       ` Starke, Daniel
2023-10-05 11:46                         ` Lee Jones
2023-10-05 11:55                           ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2023-10-05 12:17                             ` Lee Jones
2023-10-05 12:37                               ` Greg Kroah-Hartman

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