From: Greg KH <gregkh@linuxfoundation.org>
To: "Zhou, Yun" <yun.zhou@windriver.com>
Cc: sdf.kernel@gmail.com, jirislaby@kernel.org,
socketcan@hartkopp.net, linux-serial@vger.kernel.org,
mkl@pengutronix.de, linux-can@vger.kernel.org,
davem@davemloft.net, edumazet@google.com, kuba@kernel.org,
pabeni@redhat.com, horms@kernel.org, netdev@vger.kernel.org,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH] tty: ldisc: fix deadlock between ldisc_sem and rtnl_mutex
Date: Fri, 17 Jul 2026 12:51:57 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <2026071745-product-rogue-c364@gregkh> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87ea3ae8-8196-4f6f-bb03-d139f2f6c806@windriver.com>
On Fri, Jul 17, 2026 at 11:03:18AM +0800, Zhou, Yun wrote:
>
>
> On 7/16/26 15:57, Greg KH wrote:
> > CAUTION: This email comes from a non Wind River email account!
> > Do not click links or open attachments unless you recognize the sender and know the content is safe.
> >
> > On Thu, Jul 16, 2026 at 02:47:19PM +0800, Yun Zhou wrote:
> > > syzbot reported a circular lock dependency involving tty ldisc_sem and
> > > the networking rtnl_mutex. The full chain is:
> > >
> > > rtnl_mutex --> nft_commit_mutex --> ... --> ep->mtx --> ldisc_sem --> rtnl_mutex
> > >
> > > The last edge (ldisc_sem -> rtnl_mutex) is created because tty line
> > > discipline .open() callbacks (slcan, slip) call register_netdev() which
> > > acquires rtnl_mutex, and .open() runs under ldisc_sem write lock in
> > > tty_set_ldisc().
> > >
> > > Fix by moving the .open() call outside the ldisc_sem write lock. The
> > > ldisc .open() is initialization of the NEW discipline after the old one
> > > has been closed - there is no need for ldisc_sem protection at this
> > > point since:
> > >
> > > - tty_lock is held throughout, preventing concurrent tty_set_ldisc,
> > > hangup, or close
> > > - tty->ldisc is set to NULL during the window, so concurrent readers
> > > (tty_ldisc_ref, tty_ldisc_ref_wait) see NULL and return immediately,
> > > which callers already handle as a hangup condition
> > > - tty buffer data stays queued until the ldisc is installed
> > >
> > > The sequence becomes:
> > > 1. Hold ldisc_sem(write): close old ldisc, set tty->ldisc = NULL
> > > 2. Release ldisc_sem(write)
> > > 3. Call new_ldisc->ops->open() without ldisc_sem
> > > 4. Re-acquire ldisc_sem(write): install new ldisc (or restore old)
> > > 5. Release ldisc_sem(write)
> > >
> > > Reported-by: syzbot+de610eeef174bd59a8a3@syzkaller.appspotmail.com
> > > Closes: https://syzkaller.appspot.com/bug?extid=de610eeef174bd59a8a3
> > > Signed-off-by: Yun Zhou <yun.zhou@windriver.com>
> > > ---
> > > drivers/tty/tty_ldisc.c | 17 +++++++++++++++--
> > > 1 file changed, 15 insertions(+), 2 deletions(-)
> >
> > What commit caused this to be a problem and why have we not seen this in
> > any real-world usages?
> >
>
> The circular dependency has existed for a long time - it just requires
> ldisc_sem -> rtnl_mutex (from slcan/slip registering a netdev in
> .open()) and the reverse path through nft_commit_mutex, epoll, and
> tty_poll back to ldisc_sem.
>
> The recent dev_instance_lock series (5326fefb9fe8 "net: hold instance
> lock around NETDEV_DOWN/GOING_DOWN") increased lockdep's observability
> by adding lock acquisitions in more notifier paths, making it easier for
> lockdep to collect all edges in a single run. It did not create the
> cycle.
>
> We have not seen this in real-world usage because triggering the actual
> deadlock requires 6 unrelated subsystems to contend simultaneously -
> something only a fuzzer like syzkaller would construct.
>
> >
> > >
> > > diff --git a/drivers/tty/tty_ldisc.c b/drivers/tty/tty_ldisc.c
> > > index 27fe8236f662..248a6995cc53 100644
> > > --- a/drivers/tty/tty_ldisc.c
> > > +++ b/drivers/tty/tty_ldisc.c
> > > @@ -556,15 +556,28 @@ int tty_set_ldisc(struct tty_struct *tty, int disc)
> > > /* Shutdown the old discipline. */
> > > tty_ldisc_close(tty, old_ldisc);
> > >
> > > - /* Now set up the new line discipline. */
> > > - tty->ldisc = new_ldisc;
> > > + /* Clear tty->ldisc so concurrent readers back off during transition */
> > > + tty->ldisc = NULL;
> > > tty_set_termios_ldisc(tty, disc);
> > > + tty_ldisc_unlock(tty);
> > >
> > > + /*
> > > + * Open the new discipline outside ldisc_sem. The ldisc .open()
> > > + * may acquire locks (e.g., rtnl_mutex) that would create circular
> > > + * dependencies if taken under ldisc_sem. tty_lock is still held,
> > > + * preventing concurrent ldisc changes and hangup.
> > > + */
> > > retval = tty_ldisc_open(tty, new_ldisc);
> >
> > Now you are calling open when previously we were not, are you sure this
> > isn't going to cause problems?
> >
>
> This is not a new .open() call - it is the same tty_ldisc_open() that
> was always called here. The change only moves it outside ldisc_sem.
> tty_lock is still held throughout, so .open() sees the same environment
> as before.
Ah, you are right, my bad read of the patch, sorry.
thanks,
greg k-h
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2026-07-17 10:52 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 9+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2026-07-16 6:47 [PATCH] tty: ldisc: fix deadlock between ldisc_sem and rtnl_mutex Yun Zhou
2026-07-16 7:57 ` Greg KH
2026-07-17 3:03 ` Zhou, Yun
2026-07-17 10:51 ` Greg KH [this message]
2026-07-16 7:59 ` Jagielski, Jedrzej
2026-07-17 3:42 ` Zhou, Yun
2026-07-17 6:50 ` Oliver Hartkopp
2026-07-17 7:02 ` Jagielski, Jedrzej
2026-07-17 10:53 ` Greg KH
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