From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 From: Jeffrey Altman Subject: Re: Serial port redirection Date: Thu, 04 Dec 2003 12:34:30 -0500 Sender: linux-serial-owner@vger.kernel.org Message-ID: <3FCF7026.6070109@columbia.edu> References: <3FCE1267.3040204@columbia.edu> <3FCDE364.1080005@acm.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; protocol="application/x-pkcs7-signature"; micalg=sha1; boundary="------------ms080908090800080906070000" Return-path: Received: from pecan.cc.columbia.edu ([128.59.59.178]:36250 "EHLO pecan.cc.columbia.edu") by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S262360AbTLDRe5 (ORCPT ); Thu, 4 Dec 2003 12:34:57 -0500 In-Reply-To: <3FCDE364.1080005@acm.org> List-Id: linux-serial@vger.kernel.org To: Corey Minyard Cc: Peter Astrand , ltsp-discuss@lists.sourceforge.net, d.sbragion@infotecna.it, linux-serial@vger.kernel.org This is a cryptographically signed message in MIME format. --------------ms080908090800080906070000 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit The reality is RFC is experimental and not authoritative. The only thing that really counts is what Cisco actually shipped in their IOS implementation. Lucky me I actually have a terminal server that implements it. If you look at the C-Kermit sources you will see that the client is written to accept both values from the server. You will also find that Cisco does not send the baudrates as specified in the RFC but instead uses an enumeration. With regards to the comment about the use of separate codes to indicate direction, this was written without a good understanding of the Telnet Option negotiation. The reality is that there is no need for a telnet protocol option to have separate commands for each direction as the option itself must be negotiated separately in each direction. Therefore, there is no possibility of confusion. Jeffrey Altman Corey Minyard wrote: > Jeffrey Altman wrote: > >> Peter Astrand wrote: >> >>> * ser2net is totally incompatible with cyclades-serial-client. This is >>> because ser2net interprets RFC2217 a bit differently. sredird sends >>> command "101" as ack for command "1", while ser2net sends "1". >>> RFC2217 is >>> not very explicit about which way is most correct. The ser2net approach >>> looks better to me, but the sredird one is probably more widely used >>> (since Cyclades terminal server uses it, for example.) Probably, >>> RFC2217 >>> software needs to handle both cases. >>> >>> >>> >> ser2net is wrong >> >> > Umm, no. Cyclades and sredird are wrong. And it's pretty clear. > From RFC2217: > > Client to Access Server Access Server to Client > SIGNATURE text text > SET-BAUDRATE 1 101 > SET-DATASIZE 2 102 > SET-PARITY 3 103 > SET-STOPSIZE 4 104 > SET-CONTROL 5 105 > NOTIFY-LINESTATE 6 106 > NOTIFY-MODEMSTATE 7 107 > FLOWCONTROL-SUSPEND 8 108 > FLOWCONTROL-RESUME 9 109 > SET-LINESTATE-MASK 10 110 > SET-MODEMSTATE-MASK 11 111 > PURGE-DATA 12 112 > > Discussion: As initially proposed, com port configuration > commands are only sent from the client to the access > server. There is no current vision that the access > server would initiate the use of a com port configuration > command, only the notify commands. However, to allow for > access server initiated com port configurations different > command values have been established. > > That last sentence of the discussion says it. The 1xx commands are > there to allow the access server to *initiate* com port configuration > changes. Not to ack the changes. Unless you can point me to > something in the manual to say that I am wrong. > > I am willing to change this in the spirit of keeping things > consistent, though. > > -Corey --------------ms080908090800080906070000 Content-Type: application/x-pkcs7-signature; name="smime.p7s" Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64 Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="smime.p7s" Content-Description: S/MIME Cryptographic Signature MIAGCSqGSIb3DQEHAqCAMIACAQExCzAJBgUrDgMCGgUAMIAGCSqGSIb3DQEHAQAAoIIJUDCC AwYwggJvoAMCAQICAwpxijANBgkqhkiG9w0BAQQFADCBkjELMAkGA1UEBhMCWkExFTATBgNV BAgTDFdlc3Rlcm4gQ2FwZTESMBAGA1UEBxMJQ2FwZSBUb3duMQ8wDQYDVQQKEwZUaGF3dGUx HTAbBgNVBAsTFENlcnRpZmljYXRlIFNlcnZpY2VzMSgwJgYDVQQDEx9QZXJzb25hbCBGcmVl bWFpbCBSU0EgMjAwMC44LjMwMB4XDTAzMDczMDAyMDkyOFoXDTA0MDcyOTAyMDkyOFowRjEf MB0GA1UEAxMWVGhhd3RlIEZyZWVtYWlsIE1lbWJlcjEjMCEGCSqGSIb3DQEJARYUamFsdG1h bkBjb2x1bWJpYS5lZHUwggEiMA0GCSqGSIb3DQEBAQUAA4IBDwAwggEKAoIBAQDBtDG6ZyGA sK+rZOfKPKGBn6oCTLYSLk/mpeX9QTmTG71qh308KUeN35qqoRXjLvscfw6NPOYXiuxE/RqL 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