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From: Preeti U Murthy <preeti@linux.vnet.ibm.com>
To: Ivo Sieben <meltedpianoman@gmail.com>
Cc: Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>,
	Ingo Molnar <mingo@redhat.com>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, Andi Kleen <andi@firstfloor.org>,
	Oleg Nesterov <oleg@redhat.com>, Jiri Slaby <jslaby@suse.cz>,
	Alan Cox <alan@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk>,
	linux-serial@vger.kernel.org, Alan Cox <alan@linux.intel.com>,
	Greg KH <gregkh@linuxfoundation.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] tty: Only wakeup the line discipline idle queue when queue is active
Date: Wed, 16 Jan 2013 13:43:20 +0530	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <50F66120.50704@linux.vnet.ibm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAMSQXEGU2WmhmMqP7XMK2x39GN9iDDWpg-Wa7_cAauHWx5OWbQ@mail.gmail.com>

Hi Ivo,
Can you explain how this problem could create a scheduler overhead?
I am a little confused, because as far as i know,scheduler does not come
in the picture of the wake up path right? select_task_rq() in
try_to_wake_up() is where the scheduler comes in,and this is after the
task wakes up.

On 01/03/2013 03:19 PM, Ivo Sieben wrote:
> Oleg, Peter, Ingo, Andi & Preeti,
> 
> 2013/1/2 Jiri Slaby <jslaby@suse.cz>:
>> On 01/02/2013 04:21 PM, Ivo Sieben wrote:
>>> I don't understand your responses: do you suggest to implement this
>>> "if active" behavior in:
>>> * A new wake_up function called wake_up_if_active() that is part of
>>> the waitqueue layer?
>>
>> Sounds good.
>>
>> --
>> js
>> suse labs
> 
> I want to ask you 'scheduler' people for your opinion:
> 
> Maybe you remember my previous patch where I suggested an extra
> 'waitqueue empty' check before entering the critical section of the
> wakeup() function (If you do not remember see
> https://lkml.org/lkml/2012/10/25/159)
> 
> Finally Oleg responded that a lot of callers do
> 
> 	if (waitqueue_active(q))
> 		wake_up(...);
> 
> what made my patch pointless and adds a memory barrier. I then decided
> to also implement the 'waitqueue_active' approach for my problem.
> 
> But now I get a review comment by Jiri that he would like to hide this
> 'if active behavior' in a wake_up_if_active() kind of function. I
> think he is right that implementing this check in the wakeup function
> would clean things up, right?
> 
> I would like to have your opinion on the following two suggestions:
> - We still can do the original patch on the wake_up() that I
> suggested. I then can do an additional code cleanup patch that removes
> the double 'waitqueue_active' call (a quick grep found about 150 of
> these waitqueue active calls) on several places in the code.

I think this is a good move.

> - Or - as an alternative - I could add extra _if_active() versions of
> all wake_up() functions, that implement this extra test.

Why add 'extra' if_active versions? Why not optimize this within the
existing wake_up() functions?
> 
> Regards,
> Ivo

Regards
Preeti U Murthy
> 


  parent reply	other threads:[~2013-01-16  8:14 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 17+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2012-12-18 14:48 [PATCH] tty: Only wakeup the line discipline idle queue when queue is active Ivo Sieben
2013-01-02  9:29 ` Jiri Slaby
2013-01-02 11:43   ` Alan Cox
2013-01-02 15:21     ` Ivo Sieben
2013-01-02 19:06       ` Jiri Slaby
2013-01-03  9:49         ` Ivo Sieben
2013-01-03 18:36           ` Oleg Nesterov
2013-01-15  9:16             ` Ivo Sieben
2013-01-15 18:03               ` Oleg Nesterov
2013-01-16  8:13           ` Preeti U Murthy [this message]
2013-01-16  9:16             ` Ivo Sieben
2013-01-16 10:41               ` Preeti U Murthy
2013-01-16 12:02                 ` Ivo Sieben
2013-01-17 10:56                   ` Preeti U Murthy
2013-01-18 15:45                     ` Oleg Nesterov
2013-01-21  2:56                       ` Preeti U Murthy
2013-01-21  7:20                       ` Ivo Sieben

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