linux-serial.vger.kernel.org archive mirror
 help / color / mirror / Atom feed
From: Peter Hurley <peter@hurleysoftware.com>
To: Arnd Bergmann <arnd@arndb.de>
Cc: Greg Kroah-Hartman <gregkh@linuxfoundation.org>,
	One Thousand Gnomes <gnomes@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk>,
	Jiri Slaby <jslaby@suse.cz>,
	linux-serial@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-omap@vger.kernel.org, linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org,
	Sebastian Andrzej Siewior <bigeasy@linutronix.de>,
	Tony Lindgren <tony@atomide.com>,
	Grant Likely <grant.likely@linaro.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] serial: 8250: Make ISA ports optional
Date: Tue, 06 Jan 2015 16:47:55 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <54AC580B.2050809@hurleysoftware.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <6786513.g26uGMFKLE@wuerfel>

On 01/06/2015 02:43 PM, Arnd Bergmann wrote:
> On Tuesday 06 January 2015 09:32:02 Peter Hurley wrote:
>> On 01/06/2015 08:13 AM, Arnd Bergmann wrote:
>>> On Monday 05 January 2015 22:09:45 Peter Hurley wrote:
>>>> Some arches have no need to create unprobed 8250 ports; these phantom
>>>> ports are primarily required for ISA ports which have no probe
>>>> mechanism or to provide non-operational ports for userspace to
>>>> configure (via TIOCSSERIAL and TIOCSERCONFIG ioctls).
>>>>
>>>> Provide CONFIG_SERIAL_8250_PHANTOM_UARTS knob to disable phantom port
>>>> registration; ie., CONFIG_SERIAL_8250_PHANTOM_UARTS=N only registers
>>>> probed ports (ACPI/PNP, "serial8250" platform devices, PCI, etc).
>>>>
>>>> Cc: Sebastian Andrzej Siewior <bigeasy@linutronix.de>
>>>> Cc: Tony Lindgren <tony@atomide.com>
>>>> Cc: Grant Likely <grant.likely@linaro.org>
>>>> Cc: Arnd Bergmann <arnd@arndb.de>
>>>> Signed-off-by: Peter Hurley <peter@hurleysoftware.com>
>>>
>>> The intent is definitely right, but I think a better approach is
>>> possible.
>>>
>>> I haven't tried it here, but how about moving the serial8250_init
>>> function into a separate module, along with all the other parts
>>> that are only used for ISA devices, but leaving the actual core
>>> (all exported symbols) in this file?
>>
>> Unfortunately, I don't see a way to remove the stacked initialization
>> without risking tons of breakage.
>>
>> Since later probes can "find" an already-existing port and
>> re-initialize it, the probe order is crucial. For example, a PCI
>> probe can "find" an existing "serial8250" platform device port,
>> resulting in only one device node.
> 
> I'm probably missing something important, by why would that
> be any different if the PCI driver gets loaded first and the
> ISA driver second?

Well, the PCI driver would have the proper irq, for one. So, if the
the platform driver re-initialized the port to the wrong irq...

>> And the configuration knob will be required on all arches anyway because
>> that's how user-configurable device nodes are created.
> 
> I think that's fine: The user-configurable ports are the same as
> the "ISA" or "phantom" ports we were talking about above, right?

Yes.

> If those are part of a separate (possibly loadable) module, having
> a configuration knob is the obvious way to do it. A lot of architectures
> can just turn it off because they know exactly which ports are present
> and there is no need for user-configurability. The ones that don't know
> can load the module.

Let me give this some more thought.

Regards,
Peter Hurley

  reply	other threads:[~2015-01-06 21:47 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 14+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2015-01-06  3:09 [PATCH] serial: 8250: Make ISA ports optional Peter Hurley
2015-01-06 13:13 ` Arnd Bergmann
2015-01-06 14:32   ` Peter Hurley
2015-01-06 19:43     ` Arnd Bergmann
2015-01-06 21:47       ` Peter Hurley [this message]
2015-01-07 10:05         ` Arnd Bergmann
2015-01-08 13:10 ` One Thousand Gnomes
2015-01-08 16:11   ` Peter Hurley
2015-01-08 22:05     ` Arnd Bergmann
2015-01-08 22:36       ` One Thousand Gnomes
2015-01-08 23:25         ` Peter Hurley
2015-01-09  5:13       ` Peter Hurley
2015-01-09  8:48         ` Arnd Bergmann
2015-01-09 14:14           ` Peter Hurley

Reply instructions:

You may reply publicly to this message via plain-text email
using any one of the following methods:

* Save the following mbox file, import it into your mail client,
  and reply-to-all from there: mbox

  Avoid top-posting and favor interleaved quoting:
  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Posting_style#Interleaved_style

* Reply using the --to, --cc, and --in-reply-to
  switches of git-send-email(1):

  git send-email \
    --in-reply-to=54AC580B.2050809@hurleysoftware.com \
    --to=peter@hurleysoftware.com \
    --cc=arnd@arndb.de \
    --cc=bigeasy@linutronix.de \
    --cc=gnomes@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk \
    --cc=grant.likely@linaro.org \
    --cc=gregkh@linuxfoundation.org \
    --cc=jslaby@suse.cz \
    --cc=linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org \
    --cc=linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org \
    --cc=linux-omap@vger.kernel.org \
    --cc=linux-serial@vger.kernel.org \
    --cc=tony@atomide.com \
    /path/to/YOUR_REPLY

  https://kernel.org/pub/software/scm/git/docs/git-send-email.html

* If your mail client supports setting the In-Reply-To header
  via mailto: links, try the mailto: link
Be sure your reply has a Subject: header at the top and a blank line before the message body.
This is a public inbox, see mirroring instructions
for how to clone and mirror all data and code used for this inbox;
as well as URLs for NNTP newsgroup(s).