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From: Nicolas Ferre <nicolas.ferre@atmel.com>
To: Boris Brezillon <boris.brezillon@free-electrons.com>,
	"Rafael J. Wysocki" <rjw@rjwysocki.net>
Cc: Alexandre Belloni <alexandre.belloni@free-electrons.com>,
	Pavel Machek <pavel@ucw.cz>,
	Sylvain Rochet <gradator@gradator.net>,
	Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>,
	Mark Rutland <mark.rutland@arm.com>,
	Alessandro Zummo <a.zummo@towertech.it>,
	Mike Turquette <mturquette@linaro.org>,
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	Len Brown <len.brown@intel.com>,
	Greg Kroah-Hartman <gregkh@linuxfoundation.org>,
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	Wim Van Sebroeck <wim@iguana.be>,
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	Jean-Christophe Plagniol-Villard <plagnioj@jcrosoft.com>,
	Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>, Jiri Slaby <jslaby@suse.cz>,
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Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 5/6] watchdog: at91sam9: request the irq with IRQF_NO_SUSPEND
Date: Wed, 11 Mar 2015 12:17:01 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <5500242D.3080605@atmel.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20150311093848.2b23a027@bbrezillon>

Le 11/03/2015 09:38, Boris Brezillon a écrit :
> On Sun, 08 Mar 2015 02:11:45 +0100
> "Rafael J. Wysocki" <rjw@rjwysocki.net> wrote:
> 
>> On Saturday, March 07, 2015 12:06:45 PM Alexandre Belloni wrote:
>>> On 07/03/2015 at 11:39:39 +0100, Pavel Machek wrote :
>>>>> The Atmel watchdog can't be stopped once it's started. This is actually 
>>>>> very useful so we can reset if suspend or resume failed, the only 
>>>>> drawback is that you have to wake up from time to time (e.g. by using 
>>>>> the RTC/RTT) to clear the watchdog and then go back to sleep ASAP.
>>>>
>>>> Yeah. So you do "echo mem > /sys/power/state", and few seconds/minutes
>>>> after watchdog kills the system. But you did not ask for dead system,
>>>> you asked for suspend.
>>>>
>>>> And while that behaviour is useful for you, I don't think it is
>>>> exactly useful behaviour, nor it is the behaviour user would expect.
>>>>
>>>
>>> I think you misunderstood, that is exactly the expected behaviour. This
>>> is hardware defined. Once the watchdog is started, nobody can stop it.
>>> Trying to change the mode register will result in a reset of the SoC.
>>>
>>> It is documented in the datasheet and any user wanting another behaviour
>>> is out of luck.
>>>
>>> So basically, when using a watchdog, you have to wake up every 15-16s to
>>> restart it.
>>
>> So question is if we need a separate interrupt handler for that, expecially
>> since it is shared with the PIT timer anyway.
>>
>> Seems to me that the simplest way out of this conundrum would be to simply
>> make the timer's interrupt handler kick the watchdog every once a while and
>> get rid of the separate watchdog interrupt handler entirely.
> 
> The watchdog interrupt handler is not here to ping the watchdog, it's
> here to reset the platform if the watchdog hasn't been refreshed
> appropriately.
> 
> IOW, it's a software watchdog using at91 WDT capabilities to determine
> when it should reboot the system.
> IIRC, we need this on some at91 platforms to fix a HW bug (maybe
> Nicolas can confirm this).

Yes, the HW bug that we address in these functions:
at91sam9260_restart() and at91sam9g45_restart().

We have this issue because of NAND flash lines shared with DDR that are
driven during product reboot on old products (Cf. these functions
comments). This bug would kick-in when doing "software reset"/"watchdog
reset"/"push button reset". Only the "software reset" is handled by the
functions above.

So, yes, this "software watchdog" is there for this purpose IIRC.

Bye,
-- 
Nicolas Ferre

  reply	other threads:[~2015-03-11 11:17 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 48+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2015-03-02  9:18 [PATCH v2 0/6] ARM: at91: fix irq_pm_install_action WARNING Boris Brezillon
2015-03-02  9:18 ` [PATCH v2 1/6] PM / wakeup: export pm_system_wakeup symbol Boris Brezillon
     [not found] ` <1425287898-15093-1-git-send-email-boris.brezillon-wi1+55ScJUtKEb57/3fJTNBPR1lH4CV8@public.gmane.org>
2015-03-02  9:18   ` [PATCH v2 2/6] rtc: at91sam9: rework wakeup and interrupt handling Boris Brezillon
     [not found]     ` <1425287898-15093-3-git-send-email-boris.brezillon-wi1+55ScJUtKEb57/3fJTNBPR1lH4CV8@public.gmane.org>
2015-03-04 18:23       ` Mark Rutland
2015-03-02  9:18   ` [PATCH v2 5/6] watchdog: at91sam9: request the irq with IRQF_NO_SUSPEND Boris Brezillon
2015-03-02 14:10     ` Guenter Roeck
     [not found]     ` <1425287898-15093-6-git-send-email-boris.brezillon-wi1+55ScJUtKEb57/3fJTNBPR1lH4CV8@public.gmane.org>
2015-03-04 18:38       ` Mark Rutland
2015-03-04 21:41         ` Rafael J. Wysocki
     [not found]           ` <14143668.0aRkeVrc3Q-sKB8Sp2ER+y1GS7QM15AGw@public.gmane.org>
2015-03-05 10:57             ` Mark Rutland
2015-03-05 15:10               ` Rafael J. Wysocki
     [not found]                 ` <CAJZ5v0h8vn26BeWPVhC4e_KNhBu15-mshnbq0K=OQ1M36vPQEQ-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2015-03-05 16:32                   ` Mark Rutland
2015-03-06  0:29                     ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2015-03-06 11:06                       ` Mark Rutland
2015-03-06 12:39                         ` Rafael J. Wysocki
     [not found]                           ` <CAJZ5v0jA-hRUnP_+mOdFw7vN7CGZ4o0FjUVu81rq7foi92f63g-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2015-03-06 13:10                             ` Mark Rutland
2015-03-07  9:12                         ` Peter Zijlstra
2015-03-07  9:06                 ` Peter Zijlstra
2015-03-05  8:53         ` Boris Brezillon
2015-03-05 10:53           ` Mark Rutland
2015-03-05 11:17             ` Boris Brezillon
2015-03-05 11:31               ` Boris Brezillon
2015-03-05 11:53               ` Mark Rutland
2015-03-07  9:18                 ` Peter Zijlstra
2015-03-07 10:20                   ` Sylvain Rochet
2015-03-07 10:39                     ` Pavel Machek
2015-03-07 10:59                       ` Sylvain Rochet
2015-03-07 11:06                       ` Alexandre Belloni
     [not found]                         ` <20150307110645.GW3989-m++hUPXGwpdeoWH0uzbU5w@public.gmane.org>
2015-03-07 11:29                           ` Pavel Machek
2015-03-07 11:46                             ` Sylvain Rochet
2015-03-08  1:12                             ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2015-03-09  7:55                               ` Alexandre Belloni
2015-03-09 14:30                                 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
     [not found]                                   ` <1592385.fqRVVyPSPE-sKB8Sp2ER+y1GS7QM15AGw@public.gmane.org>
2015-03-10 21:33                                     ` Alexandre Belloni
2015-03-10 22:31                                       ` Rafael J. Wysocki
     [not found]                                         ` <1901056.Mqyykpv3e9-sKB8Sp2ER+y1GS7QM15AGw@public.gmane.org>
2015-03-10 22:33                                           ` Alexandre Belloni
     [not found]                                             ` <20150310223305.GN9188-m++hUPXGwpdeoWH0uzbU5w@public.gmane.org>
2015-03-11  1:03                                               ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2015-03-11  7:33                                                 ` Boris Brezillon
2015-03-08  1:11                         ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2015-03-11  8:38                           ` Boris Brezillon
2015-03-11 11:17                             ` Nicolas Ferre [this message]
2015-03-03  8:56   ` [PATCH v2 0/6] ARM: at91: fix irq_pm_install_action WARNING Alexandre Belloni
2015-03-03 15:35   ` Nicolas Ferre
2015-03-04  1:43     ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2015-03-04 18:43   ` Mark Rutland
2015-03-02  9:18 ` [PATCH v2 3/6] rtc: at91rm9200: rework wakeup and interrupt handling Boris Brezillon
2015-03-02  9:18 ` [PATCH v2 4/6] clk: at91: implement suspend/resume for the PMC irqchip Boris Brezillon
     [not found]   ` <1425287898-15093-5-git-send-email-boris.brezillon-wi1+55ScJUtKEb57/3fJTNBPR1lH4CV8@public.gmane.org>
2015-03-09 22:34     ` Mike Turquette
2015-03-02  9:18 ` [PATCH v2 6/6] tty: serial: atmel: rework interrupt and wakeup handling Boris Brezillon

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