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* Re: [BUG] drivers/tty: read() on a noncanonical blocking tty randomly fails when VMIN > received >= buf
       [not found] ` <572A80C0.4080704@hurleysoftware.com>
@ 2016-05-04 23:27   ` Julio Guerra
  2016-05-05  0:50     ` Peter Hurley
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 2+ messages in thread
From: Julio Guerra @ 2016-05-04 23:27 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Peter Hurley; +Cc: linux-serial, linux-kernel

>> When a tty (here a slave pty) is set in noncanonical input and blocking read modes, a read() randomly blocks when:
>> "VMIN > kernel received >= user buffer size > 0".
>>
>> The standard says that read() should block until VMIN bytes are received [1][2]. Whether this is an implementation defined case not really specified by POSIX or not, it should not behave randomly (otherwise it really should be documented in termios manpage).
>
> This is not a bug.
>
> From the termios(3) man page:
>
>        * MIN > 0; TIME == 0: read(2) blocks until the lesser of MIN bytes or the number of bytes requested are avail‐
>          able, and returns the lesser of these two values.
>

This does not appear in my man...

Anyway, how do you explain the random behavior then?

-- 
Julio Guerra

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* Re: [BUG] drivers/tty: read() on a noncanonical blocking tty randomly fails when VMIN > received >= buf
  2016-05-04 23:27   ` [BUG] drivers/tty: read() on a noncanonical blocking tty randomly fails when VMIN > received >= buf Julio Guerra
@ 2016-05-05  0:50     ` Peter Hurley
  0 siblings, 0 replies; 2+ messages in thread
From: Peter Hurley @ 2016-05-05  0:50 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Julio Guerra; +Cc: linux-serial, linux-kernel

On 05/04/2016 04:27 PM, Julio Guerra wrote:
>>> When a tty (here a slave pty) is set in noncanonical input and blocking read modes, a read() randomly blocks when:
>>> "VMIN > kernel received >= user buffer size > 0".
>>>
>>> The standard says that read() should block until VMIN bytes are received [1][2]. Whether this is an implementation defined case not really specified by POSIX or not, it should not behave randomly (otherwise it really should be documented in termios manpage).
>>
>> This is not a bug.
>>
>> From the termios(3) man page:
>>
>>        * MIN > 0; TIME == 0: read(2) blocks until the lesser of MIN bytes or the number of bytes requested are avail‐
>>          able, and returns the lesser of these two values.
>>
> 
> This does not appear in my man...
> 
> Anyway, how do you explain the random behavior then?

A long standing bug in this read mode allows the asynchronous input
processing thread to race with the read() thread and become confused
about how much data remains.

I fixed this in 4.6; when I run your test on 4.6, it consistently
returns the full user buffer.

Regards,
Peter Hurley

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