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From: John Ogness <john.ogness@linutronix.de>
To: Petr Mladek <pmladek@suse.com>
Cc: Marcos Paulo de Souza <mpdesouza@suse.com>,
	Steven Rostedt <rostedt@goodmis.org>,
	Sergey Senozhatsky <senozhatsky@chromium.org>,
	Greg Kroah-Hartman <gregkh@linuxfoundation.org>,
	Jiri Slaby <jirislaby@kernel.org>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-serial@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH 1/2] printk: Introduce LOUD_CON flag
Date: Mon, 21 Oct 2024 16:17:20 +0206	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <8434kpfsvr.fsf@jogness.linutronix.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <ZxZYKe0t7jWX-_1K@pathway.suse.cz>

On 2024-10-21, Petr Mladek <pmladek@suse.com> wrote:
>> That will not work because migrate_enable() can only be called from
>> can_sleep context. Instead, the migrate_disable()/enable() should be at
>> the few (one?) call sites where printk_loud_console_enter()/exit() is
>> used from task context.
>
> Hmm, if I get it correctly, we could not use migrate_disable() in
> __handle_sysrq() because it can be called also in atomic context,

I am talking about callers of __handle_sysrq() and/or their callers.

For example write_sysrq_trigger() could do:

	migrate_disable();
	__handle_sysrq(c, false);
	migrate_enable();

Or a new wrapper could be introduced for this purpose:

static inline void wrapper handle_sysrq_task(u8 key, bool check_mask)
{
	migrate_disable();
	__handle_sysrq(key, check_mask);
	migrate_enable();
}

A quick grep shows about 25 call sites to check.

> I do not see any easy way how to distinguish whether it was called in
> an atomic context or not.

There is no clean way to do that. If this information is needed, it must
be tracked by the call chain.

> So, I see three possibilities:
>
>   1. Explicitly call preempt_disable() in __handle_sysrq().
>
>      It would be just around the the single line or the help. But still,
>      I do not like it much.

Not acceptable for PREEMPT_RT since sysrq is exposed to external inputs.

>   2. Avoid the per-CPU variable. Force adding the LOUD_CON/FORCE_CON
>      flag using a global variable, e.g. printk_force_console.
>
>      The problem is that it might affect also messages printed by
>      other CPUs. And there might be many.
>
>      Well, console_loglevel is a global variable. The original code
>      had a similar problem.

If disabling migration is not an option for you, this would be my second
choice. I assume tagging too many messages is better than not tagging
enough. And, as you say, this is effectively what the current code is
trying to do.

>   3. Add the LOUD_CON/FLUSH_CON flag via a parameter. For example,
>      by a special LOGLEVEL_FORCE_CON, similar to LOGLEVEL_SCHED.
>
>      I might work well for __handle_sysrq() which calls the affected
>      printk() directly.
>
>      But it won't work, for example, for kdb_show_stack(). It wants
>      to show messages printed by a nested functions.

Right, this has limited usefulness and might miss the important things,
which tend to be within helper functions.

John

  reply	other threads:[~2024-10-21 14:11 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 14+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2024-10-16 17:03 [PATCH 0/2] printk: Add loud_console printk flag to not suppress sysrq header msgs Marcos Paulo de Souza
2024-10-16 17:03 ` [PATCH 1/2] printk: Introduce LOUD_CON flag Marcos Paulo de Souza
2024-10-16 18:11   ` John Ogness
2024-10-17 10:24     ` Petr Mladek
2024-10-18  7:14       ` John Ogness
2024-10-21 13:33         ` Petr Mladek
2024-10-21 14:11           ` John Ogness [this message]
2024-10-23 20:36             ` Marcos Paulo de Souza
2024-10-24  8:34               ` Petr Mladek
2024-10-18 12:11     ` Marcos Paulo de Souza
2024-10-19  1:28   ` kernel test robot
2024-10-16 17:03 ` [PATCH 2/2] tty: sysrq: Use printk_loud_console context on __handle_sysrq Marcos Paulo de Souza
2024-10-18  3:43   ` kernel test robot
2024-10-18  4:36   ` kernel test robot

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