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From: Adam Simonelli <adamsimonelli@gmail.com>
To: Petr Mladek <pmladek@suse.com>
Cc: linux-serial@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	Jiri Slaby <jirislaby@kernel.org>,
	Greg Kroah-Hartman <gregkh@linuxfoundation.org>,
	Andy Shevchenko <andy.shevchenko@gmail.com>,
	Steven Rostedt <rostedt@goodmis.org>,
	John Ogness <john.ogness@linutronix.de>,
	Sergey Senozhatsky <senozhatsky@chromium.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v10 1/1] printk: Add an option to allow ttynull to be a default console device
Date: Fri, 14 Mar 2025 08:52:15 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <9563158.18pcnM708K@nerdopolis2> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <Z9P6i1Caw9SWEO6t@pathway.suse.cz>

On Friday, March 14, 2025 5:44:43 AM EDT Petr Mladek wrote:
> On Thu 2025-03-13 20:41:04, adamsimonelli@gmail.com wrote:
> > From: Adam Simonelli <adamsimonelli@gmail.com>
> > 
> > The new option is CONFIG_NULL_TTY_DEFAULT_CONSOLE.
> > 
> > if enabled, and CONFIG_VT is disabled, ttynull will become the default
> > primary console device, based on the link order.
> 
> The result is not longer based on the link order.
> 
> The linking order affected the ordering the console initcalls.
> But this patch calls add_preferred_console() directly in console_init()
> before processing the init calls...
> 
> I would just remove the ", based on the link order".
> 
> > ttynull will be the only console device usually with this option enabled.
> > Some architectures do call add_preferred_console() which may add another
> > console though.
> 
> I would add here the following line:
> 
> Motivation:
> 
> to clearly separate the description of the new behavior from the motivation.
> 
> > Many distributions ship with CONFIG_VT enabled. On tested desktop hardware
> > if CONFIG_VT is disabled, the default console device falls back to
> > /dev/ttyS0 instead of /dev/tty.
> > 
> > This could cause issues in user space, and hardware problems:
> > 
> > 1. The user space issues include the case where  /dev/ttyS0 is
> > disconnected, and the TCGETS ioctl, which some user space libraries use
> > as a probe to determine if a file is a tty, is called on /dev/console and
> > fails. Programs that call isatty() on /dev/console and get an incorrect
> > false value may skip expected logging to /dev/console.
> > 
> > 2. The hardware issues include the case if a user has a science instrument
> > or other device connected to the /dev/ttyS0 port, and they were to upgrade
> > to a kernel that is disabling the CONFIG_VT option, kernel logs will then be
> > sent to the device connected to /dev/ttyS0 unless they edit their kernel
> > command line manually.
> > 
> > The new CONFIG_NULL_TTY_DEFAULT_CONSOLE option will give users and
> > distribution maintainers an option to avoid this. Disabling CONFIG_VT and
> > enabling CONFIG_NULL_TTY_DEFAULT_CONSOLE will ensure the default kernel
> > console behavior is not dependant on hardware configuration by default, and
> 
> s/dependant/dependent/
> 
> > avoid unexpected new behavior on devices connected to the /dev/ttyS0 serial
> > port.
> > 
> > diff --git a/kernel/printk/printk.c b/kernel/printk/printk.c
> > index 07668433644b..9dd807717cd4 100644
> > --- a/kernel/printk/printk.c
> > +++ b/kernel/printk/printk.c
> > @@ -4277,6 +4277,11 @@ void __init console_init(void)
> >  	initcall_t call;
> >  	initcall_entry_t *ce;
> >  
> > +#ifdef CONFIG_NULL_TTY_DEFAULT_CONSOLE
> > +       if (!console_set_on_cmdline)
> > +               add_preferred_console("ttynull", 0, NULL);
> 
> checkpatch.pl reports that there are used spaces instead of
> tabs in the two lines above. I suggest to use some editor which takes
> care of proper indentation, e.g. emacs or vim and run
> ./scripts/checkpatch.pl before sending pathes ;-)
> 
> > +#endif
> > +
> >  	/* Setup the default TTY line discipline. */
> >  	n_tty_init();
> 
> With the above changes:
> 
> Reviewed-by: Petr Mladek <pmladek@suse.com>
> Tested-by: Petr Mladek <pmladek@suse.com>
> 
> There is no need to resend this patch unless there are other comments.
> I could make the changes when committing the patch.
> 
> Best Regards,
> Petr
> 
Thanks! I think I will resend though, just so I can get it right




  reply	other threads:[~2025-03-14 12:52 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 5+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2025-03-14  0:41 [PATCH v10 0/1] Optionally allow ttynull to be selected as a default console adamsimonelli
2025-03-14  0:41 ` [PATCH v10 1/1] printk: Add an option to allow ttynull to be a default console device adamsimonelli
2025-03-14  9:44   ` Petr Mladek
2025-03-14 12:52     ` Adam Simonelli [this message]
2025-03-14 16:05     ` Adam Simonelli

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