From: "Tosoni" <jp.tosoni@acksys.fr>
To: 'George Spelvin' <linux@horizon.com>
Cc: linux-serial@vger.kernel.org
Subject: RE: serial8250_interrupt idea
Date: Mon, 17 Nov 2008 16:25:45 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <D0393E26DEF64A21B3FA255589AC9A54@acksys.local> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20081117134504.22912.qmail@science.horizon.com>
Hi again,
I read your code more carefully and I believe that it does not
exhibit the problem I talked about. Sorry for argueing.
Please note however that these chips can be - and have been indeed -
used at much higher baudrates than the 115200 you mention. Once, I
have been using 1.8 Mbps on 2 ports, over RS422 links.
> I don't see how this means that "one of them gets served much
> more often than the others"; both get served equally often.
My wording was wrong, sorry. I rather meant "one of them gets served
before the others can get a chance to be served" so the first one, if
it is continually receiving, many delay service to the next ones, thus
loosing data.
Regards
> -----Original Message-----
> From: linux-serial-owner@vger.kernel.org
> [mailto:linux-serial-owner@vger.kernel.org]On Behalf Of George Spelvin
> Sent: Monday, November 17, 2008 2:45 PM
> To: jp.tosoni@acksys.fr
> Cc: linux@horizon.com; linux-serial@vger.kernel.org
> Subject: Re: serial8250_interrupt idea
>
>
> "Tosoni" <jp.tosoni@acksys.fr> wrote:
>
> > I am talking about serial ports sharing the same interrupt.
> > Here are more details.
> >
> > Let's say that you have N ports sharing the same interrupt.
> When the data
> > rate is very high, or the processor is slow, the following
> may happen
> > depending on how you prioritize the ports:
> >
> > say that high-speed frames of 150 chars arrive on ports X and Y.
> >
> > 1/ enter ISR
> > 2/ test port X => process reception of a char, put it ahead of list
> > 3/ during processing of 2/ another char arrived on X ; goto 2
> > 4/ during processing of loop 2/ and 3/ many chars arrived
> on port Y, some
> > were lost
> > 4/ process Y and other ports
> > 5/ All N ports are now quiet; exit ISR
> >
> > Now you have lost data on port Y because you prioritized X over Y.
> >
> > Got it ?
>
> I see how some port has to be checked first, so if others share the
> same interrupt, they have to be checked second. I don't see how this
> means that "one of them gets served much more often than the others";
> both get served equally often.
>
> I also don't understand how the above can be a serious problem.
> Although slow relative to CPU speeds, the I/O port accesses
> are extremely
> fast relative to serial data transmission rates. Even at
> 115,200 baud,
> characters arrive every 86.8 us. Once the interrupt handler
> is executing,
> bytes are removed from the serial FIFO at around 1 per us.
> So not even
> a full character can arrive at port Y in the time it takes to
> completely
> empty 64 bytes out of port X's FIFO.
>
> In other words, your step 4/ cannot actually happen. If one more
> character is enough to cause port Y to overflow, it's perilously close
> to overflowing without port X.
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prev parent reply other threads:[~2008-11-17 15:27 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 9+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2008-11-13 15:03 serial8250_interrupt idea George Spelvin
2008-11-14 5:30 ` [PATCH 1/2] serial/8250.c: Change to singly linked handler chain George Spelvin
2008-11-14 5:33 ` [PATCH 2/2] serial/8250.c: Use self-adjusting list for port poll order George Spelvin
2008-11-17 9:51 ` serial8250_interrupt idea Tosoni
2008-11-17 10:56 ` George Spelvin
2008-11-17 12:45 ` Tosoni
2008-11-17 13:45 ` George Spelvin
2008-11-17 14:08 ` Chris Doré
2008-11-17 15:25 ` Tosoni [this message]
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