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From: "Danilo Krummrich" <dakr@kernel.org>
To: "Markus Probst" <markus.probst@posteo.de>
Cc: "Markus Probst via B4 Relay"
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	driver-core@lists.linux.dev, dri-devel@lists.freedesktop.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH v11 1/3] rust: add basic serial device bus abstractions
Date: Mon, 01 Jun 2026 00:32:23 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <DIX7W3C7F1UZ.3P1LHOQSD5VMR@kernel.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <7c30276759aaba8127275e602cb78783ec33bbe9.camel@posteo.de>

On Mon Jun 1, 2026 at 12:00 AM CEST, Markus Probst wrote:
> On Sun, 2026-05-31 at 23:49 +0200, Danilo Krummrich wrote:
>> On Sun May 31, 2026 at 9:42 PM CEST, Markus Probst wrote:
>> > I just noticed, is it even possible to use SRCU here? Currently the mutex not
>> > only ensures that no drvdata access happens after drvdata drop, but also that
>> > the receive_buf waits for the probe to complete, as the drvdata hasn't been
>> > initialized yet.
>> 
>> Yeah, if you drop the completion, you need the mutex.
> Is the performance impact on an mutex or on srcu + completion higher?

Weighing in the completion, the mutex probably wins as it will always be
uncontested under normal operation.

>> 
>> (In case it wasn't discussed in previous versions already, there is also the
>> option to just attach separate private data to the receive callback, which would
>> avoid this synchonization problem in the first place.
>> 
>> You could have serdev::Device<Core>::open(), which takes its own private data
>> and a corresponding close(), this way you'd allow drivers to control whether
>> they want the serial line "open" or not. You just need to make sure it is closed
>> eventually.)
> This would add complexity with types, as we need to ensure that write,
> set_baudrate, set_parity etc. does not run when closed.

Right, but looking at a few serdev drivers, there seem to be a few cases where
drivers need to close and re-open.

>> That said, I don't know what turns out to be the better approach. And maybe it
>> simply isn't something this initial series has to tackle? I think your driver
>> does not implement the receive callback?
> The initial driver with only leds: no.
>
> That changes once the driver also takes care of hwmon (ADC sensor and
> fan failure) and input (power button and possibly other buttons).

Maybe drop it from this initial series then and revisit with the first user?

  reply	other threads:[~2026-05-31 22:32 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 13+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2026-05-30 22:51 [PATCH v11 0/3] rust: add basic serial device bus abstractions Markus Probst via B4 Relay
2026-05-30 22:51 ` [PATCH v11 1/3] " Markus Probst via B4 Relay
2026-05-30 23:51   ` Danilo Krummrich
2026-05-31  6:58     ` Onur Özkan
2026-05-31  7:01       ` Onur Özkan
2026-05-31 16:37       ` Markus Probst
2026-05-31 17:57         ` Danilo Krummrich
2026-05-31 19:42     ` Markus Probst
2026-05-31 21:49       ` Danilo Krummrich
2026-05-31 22:00         ` Markus Probst
2026-05-31 22:32           ` Danilo Krummrich [this message]
2026-05-30 22:51 ` [PATCH v11 2/3] samples: rust: add Rust serial device bus sample device driver Markus Probst via B4 Relay
2026-05-30 22:51 ` [PATCH v11 3/3] MAINTAINERS: serdev: Add self for serdev Markus Probst via B4 Relay

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