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From: "Gabriel L. Somlo" <gsomlo@gmail.com>
To: Geert Uytterhoeven <geert@linux-m68k.org>
Cc: Jiri Slaby <jirislaby@kernel.org>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-serial@vger.kernel.org,
	gregkh@linuxfoundation.org, kgugala@antmicro.com,
	mholenko@antmicro.com, joel@jms.id.au,
	david.abdurachmanov@gmail.com, florent@enjoy-digital.fr,
	ilpo.jarvinen@linux.intel.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH v5 12/14] serial: liteuart: add IRQ support for the RX path
Date: Tue, 22 Nov 2022 14:41:27 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <Y30l53r3SJCHiXjj@errol.ini.cmu.edu> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAMuHMdV3_YhF454J3ixRjOgWzJhL_Qr_XqxtSqxjF0qxGotFQw@mail.gmail.com>

On Tue, Nov 22, 2022 at 10:54:45AM +0100, Geert Uytterhoeven wrote:
> On Tue, Nov 22, 2022 at 8:44 AM Jiri Slaby <jirislaby@kernel.org> wrote:
> > On 21. 11. 22, 19:50, Gabriel L. Somlo wrote:
> > >>>    static void liteuart_timer(struct timer_list *t)
> > >>>    {
> > >>>     struct liteuart_port *uart = from_timer(uart, t, timer);
> > >>>     struct uart_port *port = &uart->port;
> > >>> -   liteuart_rx_chars(port);
> > >>> -
> > >>> +   liteuart_interrupt(0, port);
> > >>
> > >> Are you sure spin_lock() is safe from this path? I assume so, but have you
> > >> thought about it?
> > >
> > > I checked and at that point `in_serving_softirq()` is true.
> > >
> > > *However*, after studying spin_lock() and friends for a while, I'm
> > > not quite clear on whether that unequivocally translates
> > > to "yes, we're safe" :)
> >
> > Depends whether some hard irq context is grabbing the port lock too. If
> > it does, it will spin forever waiting for this soft irq to finish (never
> > happens as it was interrupted).
> >
> > > As such, I'm inclined to switch to `spin_lock_irqsave()` and
> > > `spin_unlock_irqrestore()` even in the interrupt handler, which is
> > > explicitly stated to be "safe from any context":
> > > https://www.kernel.org/doc/html/v4.15/kernel-hacking/locking.html#cheat-sheet-for-locking
> >
> >
> >
> > > The alternative could be to set `TIMER_IRQSAFE` in `timer_setup()`,
> > > but no other tty driver seems to be doing that, so I'd be a bit off
> > > the beaten path there... :)
> >
> > Ah, no.
> >
> > > Please do let me know what you think about this, particularly if you
> > > consider going the spin_lock_irqsave-everywhere-just-to-be-safe route
> > > overkill... :)
> >
> > If you are unsure about the other contexts, irqsave/restore is the way
> > to go. It can be lifted later, if someone investigates harder.
> 
> Inside the interrupt handler, plain spin_lock() should be OK.
> Inside the timer handler, I think you need to use spin_lock_irqsave(),
> as e.g. liteuart_set_termios() (and lots of code in serial_core.c)
> already uses spin_lock_irqsave().
> Besides, on non-SMP, spin_lock() doesn't do anything, so you need
> to rely on disabling the local interrupt.

Thanks Geert for the clarification! I could write two wrappers around
the actual code doing the interrupt handler work, one with spin_lock()
for the actual irq handler and another with spin_lock_irqsave() for
the timer codepath. But to keep things simple I'm inclined to simply
use spin_lock_irqsave() and add a comment saying it's because we need
it when polling and it's not actually harmful when using IRQ.

Thanks,
--Gabriel
 
> Gr{oetje,eeting}s,
> 
>                         Geert
> 
> --
> Geert Uytterhoeven -- There's lots of Linux beyond ia32 -- geert@linux-m68k.org
> 
> In personal conversations with technical people, I call myself a hacker. But
> when I'm talking to journalists I just say "programmer" or something like that.
>                                 -- Linus Torvalds

  reply	other threads:[~2022-11-22 19:41 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 39+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2022-11-18 14:54 [PATCH v5 00/14] serial: liteuart: add IRQ support Gabriel Somlo
2022-11-18 14:54 ` [PATCH v5 01/14] serial: liteuart: use KBUILD_MODNAME as driver name Gabriel Somlo
2022-11-21  9:45   ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2022-11-18 14:55 ` [PATCH v5 02/14] serial: liteuart: use bit number macros Gabriel Somlo
2022-11-21  9:45   ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2022-11-18 14:55 ` [PATCH v5 03/14] serial: liteuart: remove unused uart_ops stubs Gabriel Somlo
2022-11-21  9:49   ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2022-11-18 14:55 ` [PATCH v5 04/14] serial: liteuart: don't set unused port fields Gabriel Somlo
2022-11-21  9:53   ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2022-11-18 14:55 ` [PATCH v5 05/14] serial: liteuart: minor style fix in liteuart_init() Gabriel Somlo
2022-11-21  9:53   ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2022-11-18 14:55 ` [PATCH v5 06/14] serial: liteuart: move tty_flip_buffer_push() out of rx loop Gabriel Somlo
2022-11-21  9:55   ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2022-11-18 14:55 ` [PATCH v5 07/14] serial: liteuart: rx loop should only ack rx events Gabriel Somlo
2022-11-18 14:55 ` [PATCH v5 08/14] serial: liteuart: simplify passing of uart_insert_char() flag Gabriel Somlo
2022-11-21  9:56   ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2022-11-18 14:55 ` [PATCH v5 09/14] serial: liteuart: fix rx loop variable types Gabriel Somlo
2022-11-21  8:37   ` Jiri Slaby
2022-11-21  8:42     ` Jiri Slaby
2022-11-21  8:45     ` Jiri Slaby
2022-11-21 13:55       ` Gabriel L. Somlo
2022-11-22  7:37         ` Jiri Slaby
2022-11-22 21:05           ` Gabriel L. Somlo
2022-11-23  5:39             ` Jiri Slaby
2022-11-18 14:55 ` [PATCH v5 10/14] serial: liteuart: separate rx loop from poll timer Gabriel Somlo
2022-11-21 10:16   ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2022-11-21 16:44     ` Gabriel L. Somlo
2022-11-18 14:55 ` [PATCH v5 11/14] serial: liteuart: move function definitions Gabriel Somlo
2022-11-21 10:17   ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2022-11-18 14:55 ` [PATCH v5 12/14] serial: liteuart: add IRQ support for the RX path Gabriel Somlo
2022-11-21  8:54   ` Jiri Slaby
2022-11-21 18:50     ` Gabriel L. Somlo
2022-11-22  7:44       ` Jiri Slaby
2022-11-22  9:54         ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2022-11-22 19:41           ` Gabriel L. Somlo [this message]
2022-11-18 14:55 ` [PATCH v5 13/14] serial: liteuart: add IRQ support for the TX path Gabriel Somlo
2022-11-21  8:58   ` Jiri Slaby
2022-11-21 14:07     ` Gabriel L. Somlo
2022-11-18 14:55 ` [PATCH v5 14/14] serial: liteuart: move polling putchar() function Gabriel Somlo

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