From: Greg Kroah-Hartman <gregkh@linuxfoundation.org>
To: "Tomasz Moń" <tomasz.mon@camlingroup.com>
Cc: "Uwe Kleine-König" <u.kleine-koenig@pengutronix.de>,
linux-serial@vger.kernel.org, "Jiri Slaby" <jirislaby@kernel.org>,
"Fabio Estevam" <festevam@gmail.com>,
"Sascha Hauer" <s.hauer@pengutronix.de>,
"NXP Linux Team" <linux-imx@nxp.com>,
"Pengutronix Kernel Team" <kernel@pengutronix.de>,
"Shawn Guo" <shawnguo@kernel.org>,
k.drobinski@camlintechnologies.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH] serial: imx: reduce RX interrupt frequency
Date: Wed, 5 Jan 2022 11:37:05 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <YdV00WYGGd49WYt9@kroah.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <4c48200b-cc2e-0766-a002-831a789d4879@camlingroup.com>
On Wed, Jan 05, 2022 at 08:59:09AM +0100, Tomasz Moń wrote:
> On 04.01.2022 23:49, Uwe Kleine-König wrote:
> > On Tue, Jan 04, 2022 at 12:38:01PM +0100, Greg Kroah-Hartman wrote:
> >> On Tue, Jan 04, 2022 at 12:13:06PM +0100, Tomasz Moń wrote:
> >>> On 04.01.2022 11:54, Greg Kroah-Hartman wrote:
> >>>> Why can't you do this dynamically based on the baud rate so as to always
> >>>> work properly for all speeds without increased delays for slower ones?
> >>>
> >>> Could you please advise on which baud rates to consider as slow? Does it
> >>> sound good to have the old trigger level for rates up to and including
> >>> 115200 and the new one for faster ones?
> >>
> >> You tell me, you are the one seeing this issue and are seeing delays on
> >> slower values with your change. Do some testing to see where the curve
> >> is.
>
> While the increased latency due to this change is undeniable, it is
> important to note that latency is not everything. There are applications
> where the latency is crucial, however using Linux for such applications
> is questionable. Linux is not a Real Time Operating System after all.
Yes, Linux can be used in real time situtations just fine, look at the
RT patchset for proof of that.
So let's not make things any worse for no good reason if at all
possible.
> Latency is simple to measure and argue based on the reception of single
> character. That is only a corner case, not fully describing real world.
> In the real world, it is important to consider the overall performance
> improvement. It is hard to determine how much does the performance of
> the system improve thanks to less time spent in interrupt handling.
If this can't be measured at all, why make this change in the first
place?
> If changing the default RXTL value does not sound right, then maybe RXTL
> could be configured via a device tree property? That way it would be up
> to the user to tune it for the application.
Device tree is not there to tune for applications :)
thanks,
greg k-h
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2022-01-05 10:37 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 21+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2022-01-04 10:32 [PATCH] serial: imx: reduce RX interrupt frequency Tomasz Moń
2022-01-04 10:43 ` Ahmad Fatoum
2022-01-04 11:05 ` Tomasz Moń
2022-01-04 10:54 ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2022-01-04 11:13 ` Tomasz Moń
2022-01-04 11:38 ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2022-01-04 22:49 ` Uwe Kleine-König
2022-01-05 7:59 ` Tomasz Moń
2022-01-05 10:37 ` Greg Kroah-Hartman [this message]
2022-01-05 10:56 ` Tomasz Moń
2022-01-05 10:57 ` Marc Kleine-Budde
2022-01-06 15:39 ` Sergey Organov
2022-01-05 13:34 ` Sergey Organov
2022-01-06 15:05 ` Uwe Kleine-König
2022-01-10 6:14 ` Tomasz Moń
2022-01-10 8:31 ` Uwe Kleine-König
2022-01-05 13:00 ` Sergey Organov
2022-01-05 13:04 ` Marc Kleine-Budde
2022-01-05 13:37 ` Sergey Organov
2022-01-05 13:40 ` Marc Kleine-Budde
2022-01-05 14:37 ` Sergey Organov
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