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From: Petr Mladek <pmladek@suse.com>
To: John Ogness <john.ogness@linutronix.de>
Cc: "Toshiyuki Sato (Fujitsu)" <fj6611ie@fujitsu.com>,
	'Michael Kelley' <mhklinux@outlook.com>,
	'Ryo Takakura' <ryotkkr98@gmail.com>,
	Russell King <linux@armlinux.org.uk>,
	Greg Kroah-Hartman <gregkh@linuxfoundation.org>,
	Jiri Slaby <jirislaby@kernel.org>,
	"linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org" <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	"linux-serial@vger.kernel.org" <linux-serial@vger.kernel.org>,
	"linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org"
	<linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org>
Subject: Re: Problem with nbcon console and amba-pl011 serial port
Date: Wed, 4 Jun 2025 15:42:04 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <aEBNLMYVUOGzusuR@pathway.suse.cz> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <84o6v3ohdh.fsf@jogness.linutronix.de>

On Wed 2025-06-04 13:56:34, John Ogness wrote:
> On 2025-06-04, Petr Mladek <pmladek@suse.com> wrote:
> > On Wed 2025-06-04 04:11:10, Toshiyuki Sato (Fujitsu) wrote:
> >> > On 2025-06-03, John Ogness <john.ogness@linutronix.de> wrote:
> >> > > On 2025-06-03, "Toshiyuki Sato (Fujitsu)" <fj6611ie@fujitsu.com> wrote:
> >> > >>> 4. pr_emerg() has a high logging level, and it effectively steals the console
> >> > >>> from the "pr/ttyAMA0" task, which I believe is intentional in the nbcon
> >> > design.
> >> > >>> Down in pl011_console_write_thread(), the "pr/ttyAMA0" task is doing
> >> > >>> nbcon_enter_unsafe() and nbcon_exit_unsafe() around each character
> >> > >>> that it outputs.  When pr_emerg() steals the console, nbcon_exit_unsafe()
> >> > >>> returns 0, so the "for" loop exits. pl011_console_write_thread() then
> >> > >>> enters a busy "while" loop waiting to reclaim the console. It's doing this
> >> > >>> busy "while" loop with interrupts disabled, and because of the panic,
> >> > >>> it never succeeds.
> >
> > I am a bit surprised that it never succeeds. The panic CPU takes over
> > the ownership but it releases it when the messages are flushed. And
> > the original owner should be able to reacquire it in this case.
> 
> The problem is that other_cpu_in_panic() will return true forever, which
> will cause _all_ acquires to fail forever. Originally we did allow
> non-panic to take over again after panic releases ownership. But IIRC we
> removed that capability because it allowed us to reduce a lot of
> complexity. And now nbcon_waiter_matches() relies on "Lower priorities
> are ignored during panic() until reboot."

Great catch! I forgot it. And it explains everything.

It would be nice to mention this in the commit message or
in the comment above nbcon_reacquire_nobuf().

My updated prosal of the comment is:

 * Return:	True when the context reacquired the owner ship. The caller
 *		might try entering the unsafe state and restore the original
 *		console device setting. It must not access the output buffer
 *		anymore.
 *
 *		False when another CPU is in panic(). nbcon_try_acquire()
 *		would never succeed and the infinite loop would	prevent
 *		stopping this CPU on architectures without proper NMI.
 *		The caller should bail out immediately without
 *		touching the console device or the output buffer.

Best Regards,
Petr

  reply	other threads:[~2025-06-04 13:42 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 25+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2025-06-03  3:18 Problem with nbcon console and amba-pl011 serial port Michael Kelley
2025-06-03  9:03 ` Ryo Takakura
2025-06-03  9:36 ` Toshiyuki Sato (Fujitsu)
2025-06-03 10:13   ` John Ogness
2025-06-03 10:44     ` John Ogness
2025-06-04  1:22       ` Toshiyuki Sato (Fujitsu)
2025-06-04  7:44         ` John Ogness
2025-06-04  8:11           ` Russell King (Oracle)
2025-06-03 11:09     ` John Ogness
2025-06-04  4:11       ` Toshiyuki Sato (Fujitsu)
2025-06-04  7:52         ` John Ogness
2025-06-04 11:08         ` Petr Mladek
2025-06-04 11:50           ` John Ogness
2025-06-04 13:42             ` Petr Mladek [this message]
2025-06-05  5:27               ` Toshiyuki Sato (Fujitsu)
2025-06-05 13:39                 ` Petr Mladek
2025-06-06  6:46                   ` Toshiyuki Sato (Fujitsu)
2025-06-06 10:19                   ` John Ogness
2025-06-06 10:35                     ` John Ogness
2025-06-06 14:01                     ` Petr Mladek
2025-06-06 16:58                       ` John Ogness
2025-06-05  2:49         ` Michael Kelley
2025-06-05  6:22           ` Toshiyuki Sato (Fujitsu)
2025-06-05  7:42             ` John Ogness
2025-06-09  3:38               ` Michael Kelley

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