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From: Prarit Bhargava <prarit@redhat.com>
To: Jeffrey Hugo <jhugo@codeaurora.org>, Ingo Molnar <mingo@kernel.org>
Cc: Jonathan Corbet <corbet@lwn.net>,
	x86@kernel.org, linux-pm@vger.kernel.org,
	Catalin Marinas <catalin.marinas@arm.com>,
	Bhupesh Sharma <bhsharma@redhat.com>,
	linux-doc@vger.kernel.org, Will Deacon <will.deacon@arm.com>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-acpi@vger.kernel.org,
	Ingo Molnar <mingo@redhat.com>,
	"Rafael J. Wysocki" <rjw@rjwysocki.net>,
	Lv Zheng <lv.zheng@intel.com>,
	linux-serial@vger.kernel.org, "H. Peter Anvin" <hpa@zytor.com>,
	Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>,
	linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH 0/2] acpi, x86: Add SPCR table support
Date: Fri, 8 Dec 2017 11:02:40 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <c5441b79-91a3-719b-f435-3c9ea937a743@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <bd727a15-c697-741f-864b-8b48b8e5e272@codeaurora.org>



On 12/08/2017 10:31 AM, Jeffrey Hugo wrote:
> On 12/8/2017 7:29 AM, Prarit Bhargava wrote:
>>
>>
>> On 12/08/2017 01:29 AM, Ingo Molnar wrote:
>>>
>>> * Prarit Bhargava <prarit@redhat.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> The SPCR (Serial Port Console Redirection) Table provides information
>>>> about the configuration of serial port.  This information can be used
>>>> to configure the early console.
>>>
>>> s/about the configuration of serial port
>>>   /about the configuration of the serial port
>>>
>>>> SPCR support was added for arm64 and is made available across all arches
>>>> in this patchset.  The first patch adds a weak per-arch configuration function
>>>> and moves the SPCR code into ACPI.  The second patch adds support to x86.
>>>>
>>>> The existing behaviour on arm64 is maintained.  If the SPCR exists the
>>>> earlycon and console are automatically configured.
>>>
>>> s/arm64
>>>   /ARM64
>>>
>>> which is easier to read and it's also the prevalent spelling:
>>>
>>>   triton:~/tip> for N in $(git grep -ih arm64 arch/arm64/ | sed
>>> 's/[[:punct:]]/ /g'); do echo $N | grep -iw arm64; done | sort | uniq -c
>>>       412 arm64
>>>         1 Arm64
>>>       854 ARM64
>>>
>>>> The existing default behaviour on x86 is also maintained.  If no console or
>>>> earlycon parameter is defined and the SPCR exists , the serial port is not
>>>> configured.  If the earlycon parameter is used both the early console
>>>> and the console are configured using the data from the SPCR.
>>>
>>> s/exists , the
>>>   /exists, the
>>>
>>> But, the logic to not use the SPCR looks confusing to me.
>>>
>>> The SPCR is only present if the user has explicitly configured a serial console
>>> for that machine, either in the firmware, or remotely via IPMI, correct? I.e.
>>> SPCR
>>> will not be spuriously present by default on systems that have a serial console
>>> but the user never expressed any interest for them, right?
>>
>> If I disable "Serial Port Console Debug" in my BIOS I still see the SPCR
>> configured:
>>
>> [root@prarit-lab ~]# dmesg | grep SPCR
>> [    0.000000] ACPI: SPCR 0x0000000069031000 000050 (v01
>> 00000000      00000000)
>>
>> AFAICT the SPCR is always enabled on some systems.
> 
> "Serial Port Console Debug" sounds like DBG2 to me, although I am unsure of the
> specific platform you are referencing.
> 
>>
>>>
>>> If so then we should pick up that serial console configuration and activate it,
>>> regardless of any kernel boot options!
>>
>> I'm worried about someone who doesn't want a console on ttyS0 suddenly ending up
>> with one.  The SPCR could contain incorrect data, etc.
>>
>> I originally wanted this on by default, but the chances of breaking someone's
>> setup seems significant doesn't it?  Maybe I'm being too cautious.  Anyone else
>> want to weigh in?  I'm not ignoring your idea Ingo, I'm just worried about being
>> yelled at by a user :) because I broke their default console setup.
>>
> 
> SPCR is always present on QDF2400 (ARM64 platform).  Firmware will automatically
> update the SPCR table to point to the correct console (IE Serial-over-LAN or SOL
> if configured via IPMI).  Unless a user specifically chooses to override the
> SPCR via "console=", we expect that a console will be present based on the data
> in SPCR.

Hey Jeffrey -- I think Ingo's & my conversation is x86-specific.  I am *NOT*
changing the behaviour on ARM64.

P.

> 

  reply	other threads:[~2017-12-08 16:02 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 15+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2017-12-07 17:29 [PATCH 0/2] acpi, x86: Add SPCR table support Prarit Bhargava
2017-12-07 17:29 ` [PATCH 1/2] acpi, spcr: Make SPCR avialable to other architectures Prarit Bhargava
2017-12-07 18:43   ` Timur Tabi
2017-12-07 19:05     ` Prarit Bhargava
2017-12-07 19:35       ` Timur Tabi
2017-12-08 19:42     ` Prarit Bhargava
2017-12-07 17:29 ` [PATCH 2/2] acpi, x86: Use SPCR table for earlycon on x86 Prarit Bhargava
2017-12-07 18:46   ` Timur Tabi
2017-12-07 19:03     ` Prarit Bhargava
2017-12-08  6:29 ` [PATCH 0/2] acpi, x86: Add SPCR table support Ingo Molnar
2017-12-08 14:29   ` Prarit Bhargava
2017-12-08 15:31     ` Jeffrey Hugo
2017-12-08 16:02       ` Prarit Bhargava [this message]
2017-12-10 20:40     ` Jon Masters
2017-12-11 14:42     ` Ingo Molnar

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