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From: Grant Edwards <grant.b.edwards@gmail.com>
To: linux-serial@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: tty_flip_buffer() from atomic context when low_latency==1
Date: Fri, 19 Aug 2011 21:52:27 +0000 (UTC)	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <j2mlur$k3g$1@dough.gmane.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: 20110819223141.6250087c@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk

On 2011-08-19, Alan Cox <alan@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk> wrote:
>> I don't understand why the low_latency flag even exists when setting
>> it apparently breaks most all of the serial drivers.
>
> Mostly history. I'd not realised random users could fiddle with it - they
> shouldn't be able to do that so that wants fixing.
>
> Historically it made sense as with a 100Hz clock some algorithms with
> drivers that delayed stuff a lot got really slow (eg non windowed
> versions of firmware download protocols, kermit, xmodem etc)

I know why it used to be there, and "back in the day" setting it made
a very noticable difference in the latency on the receive data path.
In some situations, setting the low_latency flag could increase by a a
factor of 10 the number of command/reply transactions you could do per
second (particularly at high baud rates and commands/repsonses are
only a couple bytes).

> Nowdays the kernel is a bit more sophisticated and we should possibly
> re-arrange it so that it selects different workqueues or similar -
> low_latency meaning 'use a private hard rt work queue' perhaps.
>
> Or indeed possibly making ttys use threaded IRQs

For most of the drivers I'm maintaining, I've decided I'm going to
have to force low_latency = 0.  There is one driver that has one mode
where the receive data is handled in a non-atomic context, so that one
can still honor the low_latency flag, but the rest will have to force
it to 0.

[Why this only became a problem recently, I don't know.]

-- 
Grant Edwards               grant.b.edwards        Yow! Am I in Milwaukee?
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  reply	other threads:[~2011-08-19 21:52 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 8+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2011-08-19 19:43 tty_flip_buffer() from atomic context when low_latency==1 Grant Edwards
2011-08-19 20:24 ` Alan Cox
2011-08-19 20:44   ` Grant Edwards
2011-08-19 21:06     ` Alan Cox
2011-08-19 21:24       ` Grant Edwards
2011-08-19 21:31         ` Alan Cox
2011-08-19 21:52           ` Grant Edwards [this message]
2011-08-19 22:53             ` Alan Cox

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