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From: Grant Edwards <grant.b.edwards@gmail.com>
To: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Cc: linux-serial@vger.kernel.org, linux-rt-users@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: locking changes in tty broke low latency feature
Date: Fri, 21 Feb 2014 16:31:03 +0000 (UTC)	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <le7v07$9gn$1@ger.gmane.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: 53077799.6030700@hurleysoftware.com

On 2014-02-21, Peter Hurley <peter@hurleysoftware.com> wrote:

> I think the consensus is to leave the low_latency facility in, but
> remove it's connection to the tty buffers.
>
> If the known-to-be-already-in-non-interrupt-context drivers want,
> I can add a different function for executing flush_to_ldisc()
> directly. But I don't want to do that without a use-case and test
> subject.

Three of the drivers I maintain have modes where they handle all rx
data in non-interrupt contexts, but I'm not convinced (or even
suspicious) that there would be any noticeable benefit from such a
function.  If, at some point in the future, it becomes apparent that
there is "too much latency" in certain cases then perhaps it can be
looked at again -- but I think doing it now is premature optimization.
That said, all things being equal, it would be nice to avoid anything
that would make such an addition impossible in the future.

>> First question though comes before all of this - and that is do we need
>> low_latency at all any more or is the current scheduling logic now good
>> enough to do the job anyway.
>
> Right.
>
> Based on my recent test, I think low_latency doesn't need to be a
> knob for the tty core.

I Agree: there doesn't seem to be any evidence that it's needed by the
tty/ldisc layer.

> Drivers can continue to use it to mess with their rx fifo settings
> and such like.

Excellent.  One of my serial_core drivers still has (in it's default
configuration) 10ms of latency that I can choose to eliminate on a
per-port bases (at the cost of extra CPU cycles) when the low_latency
flag is set.

> I plan on sending Greg a patch to do just that, probably this weekend.

Cool.  Thanks much for your attention to this.

-- 
Grant

  reply	other threads:[~2014-02-21 16:31 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 29+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2014-02-18  9:38 locking changes in tty broke low latency feature Stanislaw Gruszka
2014-02-18  9:57 ` One Thousand Gnomes
2014-02-18 22:12 ` Peter Hurley
2014-02-19 13:03   ` Stanislaw Gruszka
2014-02-19 16:55     ` Grant Edwards
2014-02-19 17:38       ` Peter Hurley
2014-02-19 18:12         ` Grant Edwards
2014-02-19 18:42           ` Peter Hurley
2014-02-19 19:17         ` One Thousand Gnomes
2014-02-19 20:22           ` Peter Hurley
2014-02-19 21:42             ` One Thousand Gnomes
2014-02-20  2:19               ` Peter Hurley
2014-02-21 15:39                 ` One Thousand Gnomes
2014-02-21 15:58                   ` Peter Hurley
2014-02-21 16:31                     ` Grant Edwards [this message]
2014-02-19 23:06     ` Hal Murray
2014-02-19 23:35       ` One Thousand Gnomes
2014-02-20  2:55       ` Peter Hurley
2014-02-20  4:16         ` Greg KH
2014-02-20 18:16         ` Peter Hurley
2014-02-20 19:33           ` Grant Edwards
2014-02-20 22:06             ` Peter Hurley
2014-02-23 22:33           ` Thomas Gleixner
2014-02-24  0:23             ` Peter Hurley
2014-02-24 13:23             ` One Thousand Gnomes
2014-02-24 15:44             ` Grant Edwards
2014-02-20 21:55         ` Hal Murray
2014-02-20 22:14           ` Grant Edwards
2014-02-21 15:43             ` One Thousand Gnomes

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