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From: Dave Hansen <dave.hansen@intel.com>
To: "Fabio M. De Francesco" <fmdefrancesco@gmail.com>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-sgx@vger.kernel.org,
	Jarkko Sakkinen <jarkko@kernel.org>,
	Dave Hansen <dave.hansen@linux.intel.com>,
	Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>,
	Ingo Molnar <mingo@redhat.com>, Borislav Petkov <bp@alien8.de>,
	x86@kernel.org, "H. Peter Anvin" <hpa@zytor.com>,
	Kristen Carlson Accardi <kristen@linux.intel.com>,
	ira.weiny@intel.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH] x86/sgx: Replace kmap/kunmap_atomic calls
Date: Thu, 6 Oct 2022 15:29:35 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <3dfccc80-e089-4915-d57e-96d26b237182@intel.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <8124835.T7Z3S40VBb@mypc>

On 10/6/22 15:02, Fabio M. De Francesco wrote:
> On Thursday, October 6, 2022 10:45:56 PM CEST Dave Hansen wrote:
> Am I still missing anything fundamental?

Yes. :)

kmap() users can sleep.  That means the number of them that you need to
keep around is unbounded.  kmap_atomic()'s fundamentally can't sleep so
you need fewer of them.  That means that when you kunmap_atomic() you
can use a simple, fast, CPU-local TLB flushing operation.  kunmap()
eventually requires a big fat global TLB flush.

So, you're right.  On lowmem-only systems, kmap() *can* be cheaper than
kmap_atomic().  But, on highmem systems there's no contest:
kmap_atomic() is king.

That's why kmap_atomic() is and should be the default.

>> You use kmap_atomic() *always* unless you _need_ to sleep or one
>> of the other kmap()-only things.
> 
> What would happen if you rely on switching in atomic as a side effect of 
> kmap_atomic() and then you convert to kmap_local_page() without explicitly 
> disabling, for example, preemption since who converts don't care to know if 
> the code is in atomic before calling kmap_atomic() before or after the call 
> (as I said there may be cases where non atomic execution must disable 
> preemption for some reasons only between the mapping and the unmapping?
> 
> If I were a maintainer I wouldn't trust changes that let me think that the 
> developer can't tell if we need to disable something while converting to 
> kmap_local_page().

In this case, it's just not that complicated.  The SGX code isn't
relying on anything subtle that kmap_local_page() does not provide.

  reply	other threads:[~2022-10-06 22:29 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 15+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2022-09-29 16:06 [PATCH] x86/sgx: Replace kmap/kunmap_atomic calls Kristen Carlson Accardi
2022-09-30 21:55 ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2022-10-06 20:37 ` Fabio M. De Francesco
2022-10-06 20:45   ` Dave Hansen
2022-10-06 21:26     ` Ira Weiny
2022-10-06 22:02     ` Fabio M. De Francesco
2022-10-06 22:29       ` Dave Hansen [this message]
2022-10-06 23:17         ` Ira Weiny
2022-10-07 15:23 ` Ira Weiny
2022-10-12  7:15   ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2022-10-12  7:26     ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2022-10-12 14:13     ` Dave Hansen
2022-10-12 14:50       ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2022-10-12 15:50         ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2022-10-13 16:03           ` Kristen Carlson Accardi

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