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From: "Huang, Kai" <kai.huang@intel.com>
To: "Christopherson,, Sean" <seanjc@google.com>,
	"haitao.huang@linux.intel.com" <haitao.huang@linux.intel.com>
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Subject: Re: [PATCH v5 12/18] x86/sgx: Add EPC OOM path to forcefully reclaim EPC
Date: Tue, 17 Oct 2023 01:34:57 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <915907d56861ef4aa7f9f68e0eb8d136a60bee39.camel@intel.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <op.2cxmq7c2wjvjmi@hhuan26-mobl.amr.corp.intel.com>

On Mon, 2023-10-16 at 19:10 -0500, Haitao Huang wrote:
> On Mon, 16 Oct 2023 16:09:52 -0500, Huang, Kai <kai.huang@intel.com> wrote:
> [...]
> 
> > still need to fix the bug mentioned above here.
> > 
> > I really think you should just go this simple way:
> > 
> > When you want to take EPC back from VM, kill the VM.
> > 
> 
> My only concern is that this is a compromise due to current limitation (no  
> other sane way to take EPC from VMs). If we define this behavior and it  
> becomes a contract to user space, then we can't change in future.

Why do we need to "define such behaviour"?

This isn't some kinda of kernel/userspace ABI IMHO, but only kernel internal
implementation.  Here VM is similar to normal host enclaves.  You limit the
resource, some host enclaves could be killed.  Similarly, VM could also be
killed too.

And supporting VMM EPC oversubscription doesn't mean VM won't be killed.  The VM
can still be a target to kill after VM's all EPC pages have been swapped out.

> 
> On the other hand, my understanding the reason you want this behavior is  
> to enforce EPC limit at runtime. 
> 

No I just thought this is a bug/issue needs to be fixed.  If anyone believes
this is not a bug/issue then it's a separate discussion.


  reply	other threads:[~2023-10-17  1:35 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 119+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2023-09-23  3:06 [PATCH v5 00/18] Add Cgroup support for SGX EPC memory Haitao Huang
2023-09-23  3:06 ` [PATCH v5 01/18] cgroup/misc: Add per resource callbacks for CSS events Haitao Huang
2023-09-25 17:09   ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2023-09-26  3:04     ` Haitao Huang
2023-09-26 13:10       ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2023-09-26 13:13         ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2023-09-27  1:56           ` Haitao Huang
2023-10-02 22:47             ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2023-10-02 22:55               ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2023-10-04 15:45                 ` Haitao Huang
2023-10-04 17:18                   ` Tejun Heo
2023-09-27  9:20   ` Huang, Kai
2023-10-03 14:29     ` Haitao Huang
2023-10-17 18:55   ` Michal Koutný
2023-09-23  3:06 ` [PATCH v5 02/18] cgroup/misc: Add SGX EPC resource type and export APIs for SGX driver Haitao Huang
2023-09-25 18:50   ` Tejun Heo
2023-09-28  3:59   ` Huang, Kai
2023-10-03  7:00     ` Haitao Huang
2023-10-03 19:33       ` Huang, Kai
2023-09-23  3:06 ` [PATCH v5 03/18] x86/sgx: Add sgx_epc_lru_lists to encapsulate LRU lists Haitao Huang
2023-09-23  3:06 ` [PATCH v5 04/18] x86/sgx: Use sgx_epc_lru_lists for existing active page list Haitao Huang
2023-09-23  3:06 ` [PATCH v5 05/18] x86/sgx: Store reclaimable EPC pages in sgx_epc_lru_lists Haitao Huang
2023-09-27 10:14   ` Huang, Kai
2023-09-23  3:06 ` [PATCH v5 06/18] x86/sgx: Introduce EPC page states Haitao Huang
2023-09-25 17:11   ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2023-09-27 10:28   ` Huang, Kai
2023-10-03  4:49     ` Haitao Huang
2023-10-03 20:03       ` Huang, Kai
2023-10-04 15:24         ` Haitao Huang
2023-10-04 21:05           ` Huang, Kai
2023-09-23  3:06 ` [PATCH v5 07/18] x86/sgx: Introduce RECLAIM_IN_PROGRESS state Haitao Huang
2023-09-25 17:13   ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2023-09-27 10:42   ` Huang, Kai
2023-09-23  3:06 ` [PATCH v5 08/18] x86/sgx: Use a list to track to-be-reclaimed pages Haitao Huang
2023-09-28  9:28   ` Huang, Kai
2023-10-03  5:09     ` Haitao Huang
2023-09-23  3:06 ` [PATCH v5 09/18] x86/sgx: Store struct sgx_encl when allocating new VA pages Haitao Huang
2023-09-27 11:14   ` Huang, Kai
2023-09-27 15:35     ` Haitao Huang
2023-09-27 21:21       ` Huang, Kai
2023-09-29 15:06         ` Haitao Huang
2023-10-02 11:05           ` Huang, Kai
2023-09-27 11:35   ` Huang, Kai
2023-10-03  6:45     ` Haitao Huang
2023-10-03 20:07       ` Huang, Kai
2023-10-04 15:03         ` Haitao Huang
2023-10-04 21:13           ` Huang, Kai
2023-10-05  4:22             ` Haitao Huang
2023-10-05  6:49               ` Huang, Kai
2023-09-23  3:06 ` [PATCH v5 10/18] x86/sgx: Add EPC page flags to identify owner types Haitao Huang
2023-09-23  3:06 ` [PATCH v5 11/18] x86/sgx: store unreclaimable pages in LRU lists Haitao Huang
2023-09-27 11:57   ` Huang, Kai
2023-10-03  5:42     ` Haitao Huang
2023-09-28  9:41   ` Huang, Kai
2023-10-03  5:15     ` Haitao Huang
2023-10-03 20:12       ` Huang, Kai
2023-09-23  3:06 ` [PATCH v5 12/18] x86/sgx: Add EPC OOM path to forcefully reclaim EPC Haitao Huang
2023-10-09 23:45   ` Huang, Kai
2023-10-10  0:23     ` Sean Christopherson
2023-10-10  0:50       ` Huang, Kai
2023-10-10  1:34         ` Huang, Kai
2023-10-10 16:49           ` Haitao Huang
2023-10-11  0:51             ` Huang, Kai
2023-10-12 13:27               ` Haitao Huang
2023-10-16 10:57                 ` Huang, Kai
2023-10-16 19:52                   ` Haitao Huang
2023-10-16 21:09                     ` Huang, Kai
2023-10-17  0:10                       ` Haitao Huang
2023-10-17  1:34                         ` Huang, Kai [this message]
2023-10-17 12:58                           ` Haitao Huang
2023-10-17 18:54                             ` Michal Koutný
2023-10-17 19:13                               ` Michal Koutný
2023-10-18  4:39                                 ` Haitao Huang
2023-10-18  4:37                               ` Haitao Huang
2023-10-18 13:55                                 ` Dave Hansen
2023-10-18 15:26                                   ` Haitao Huang
2023-10-18 15:37                                     ` Dave Hansen
2023-10-18 15:52                                       ` Michal Koutný
2023-10-18 16:25                                         ` Haitao Huang
2023-10-16 21:32                     ` Sean Christopherson
2023-10-17  0:09                       ` Haitao Huang
2023-10-17 15:43                         ` Sean Christopherson
2023-10-17 11:49                       ` Mikko Ylinen
2023-10-11  1:14             ` Huang, Kai
2023-10-16 11:02               ` Huang, Kai
2023-10-10  1:42       ` Haitao Huang
2023-10-10  2:23         ` Huang, Kai
2023-10-10 13:26           ` Haitao Huang
2023-10-11  0:01             ` Sean Christopherson
2023-10-11 15:02               ` Haitao Huang
2023-10-10  1:04     ` Haitao Huang
2023-10-10  1:18       ` Huang, Kai
2023-10-10  1:38         ` Haitao Huang
2023-10-10  2:12           ` Huang, Kai
2023-10-10 17:05             ` Haitao Huang
2023-10-11  0:31               ` Huang, Kai
2023-10-11 16:04                 ` Haitao Huang
2023-09-23  3:06 ` [PATCH v5 13/18] x86/sgx: Expose sgx_reclaim_pages() for use by EPC cgroup Haitao Huang
2023-10-05 12:24   ` Huang, Kai
2023-10-05 19:23     ` Haitao Huang
2023-10-05 20:25       ` Huang, Kai
2023-09-23  3:06 ` [PATCH v5 14/18] x86/sgx: Add helper to grab pages from an arbitrary EPC LRU Haitao Huang
2023-09-23  3:06 ` [PATCH v5 15/18] x86/sgx: Prepare for multiple LRUs Haitao Huang
2023-10-05 12:30   ` Huang, Kai
2023-10-05 19:33     ` Haitao Huang
2023-10-05 20:38       ` Huang, Kai
2023-09-23  3:06 ` [PATCH v5 16/18] x86/sgx: Limit process EPC usage with misc cgroup controller Haitao Huang
2023-09-25 17:15   ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2023-10-05 21:01   ` Huang, Kai
2023-10-10  0:12   ` Huang, Kai
2023-10-10  0:16   ` Huang, Kai
2023-10-10  0:26   ` Huang, Kai
2023-10-22 18:26     ` Haitao Huang
2023-10-10  9:19   ` Huang, Kai
2023-10-10  9:32   ` Huang, Kai
2023-10-17 18:54   ` Michal Koutný
2023-10-19 16:05     ` Haitao Huang
2023-09-23  3:06 ` [PATCH v5 17/18] Docs/x86/sgx: Add description for cgroup support Haitao Huang
2023-09-23  3:06 ` [PATCH v5 18/18] selftests/sgx: Add scripts for EPC cgroup testing Haitao Huang

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