From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 From: Uwe =?iso-8859-1?Q?Kleine-K=F6nig?= Date: Fri, 27 Aug 2010 06:13:55 +0000 Subject: Re: [RFC][PATCH] add Message-Id: <20100827061355.GA938@pengutronix.de> List-Id: References: <20100827044142.GB31863@pengutronix.de> <20100827140005Y.fujita.tomonori@lab.ntt.co.jp> <20100827051907.GA17521@pengutronix.de> <20100827145712Z.fujita.tomonori@lab.ntt.co.jp> In-Reply-To: <20100827145712Z.fujita.tomonori@lab.ntt.co.jp> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable To: linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org Hello, On Fri, Aug 27, 2010 at 02:57:59PM +0900, FUJITA Tomonori wrote: > On Fri, 27 Aug 2010 07:19:07 +0200 > Uwe Kleine-K=F6nig wrote: >=20 > > Hey, > >=20 > > On Fri, Aug 27, 2010 at 02:00:17PM +0900, FUJITA Tomonori wrote: > > > On Fri, 27 Aug 2010 06:41:42 +0200 > > > Uwe Kleine-K=F6nig wrote: > > > > On Thu, Aug 26, 2010 at 07:00:24PM +0900, FUJITA Tomonori wrote: > > > > > On Thu, 26 Aug 2010 11:53:11 +0200 > > > > > Uwe Kleine-K=F6nig wrote: > > > > >=20 > > > > > > > > We have currently a number of boards broken in the mainline= . They must be=20 > > > > > > > > fixed for 2.6.36. I don't think the mentioned API will do t= his for us. So,=20 > > > > > > > > as I suggested earlier, we need either this or my patch ser= ies > > > > > > > >=20 > > > > > > > > http://thread.gmane.org/gmane.linux.ports.sh.devel/8595 > > > > > > > >=20 > > > > > > > > for 2.6.36. > > > > > > >=20 > > > > > > > Why can't you revert a commit that causes the regression? > > > > > > >=20 > > > > > > > The related DMA API wasn't changed in 2.6.36-rc1. The DMA API= is not > > > > > > > responsible for the regression. And the patchset even exnteds= the > > > > > > > definition of the DMA API (dma_declare_coherent_memory). Such= change > > > > > > > shouldn't applied after rc1. I think that DMA-API.txt says th= at > > > > > > > dma_declare_coherent_memory() handles coherent memory for a p= articular > > > > > > > device. It's not for the API that reserves coherent memory th= at can be > > > > > > > used for any device for a single device. > > > > > > The patch that made the problem obvious for ARM is > > > > > > 309caa9cc6ff39d261264ec4ff10e29489afc8f8 aka v2.6.36-rc1~591^2~= 2^4~12. > > > > > > So this went in before v2.6.36-rc1. One of the "architectures = which > > > > > > similar restrictions" is x86 BTW. > > > > > >=20 > > > > > > And no, we won't revert 309caa9cc6ff39d261264ec4ff10e29489afc8f= 8 as it > > > > > > addresses a hardware restriction. > > > > >=20 > > > > > How these drivers were able to work without hitting the hardware = restriction? > > > > In my case the machine in question is an ARMv5, the hardware restri= ction > > > > is on ARMv6+ only. You could argue that so the breaking patch for = arm > > > > should only break ARMv6, but I don't think this is sensible from a > > > > maintainers POV. We need an API that works independant of the mach= ine > > > > that runs the code. > > >=20 > > > Agreed. But insisting that the DMA API needs to be extended wrongly > > > after rc2 to fix the regression is not sensible too. The related DMA > > > API wasn't changed in 2.6.36-rc1. The API isn't responsible for the > > > regression at all. > > I think this isn't about "responsiblity". Someone in arm-land found > > that the way dma memory allocation worked for some time doesn't work > > anymore on new generation chips. As pointing out this problem was > > expected to find some matches it was merged in the merge window. One > > such match is the current usage of the DMA API that doesn't currently > > offer a way to do it right, so it needs a patch, no? >=20 > No, I don't think so. We are talking about a regression, right? >=20 > On new generation chips, something often doesn't work (which have > worked on old chips for some time). It's not a regresiion. I don't > think that it's sensible to make large change (especially after rc1) > to fix such issue. If you say that the DMA API doesn't work on new > chips and proposes a patch for the next merge window, it's sensible, I > suppose. >=20 > Btw, the patch isn't a fix for the DMA API. It tries to extend the DMA > API (and IMO in the wrong way). In addition, the patch might break the > current code. I really don't think that applying such patch after rc1 > is senseble. So you suggest to revert 309caa9cc6ff39d261264ec4ff10e29489afc8f8 or at least restrict it to ARMv6+ and fix the problem during the next merge window? Russell? Best regards Uwe --=20 Pengutronix e.K. | Uwe Kleine-K=F6nig | Industrial Linux Solutions | http://www.pengutronix.de/ |