From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 From: Ingo Molnar Date: Fri, 01 Jul 2011 16:13:45 +0000 Subject: Re: [PATCH 00/10] Enhance /dev/mem to allow read/write of arbitrary Message-Id: <20110701161345.GA29775@elte.hu> List-Id: References: <201106171038.25988.ptesarik@suse.cz> <20110701144129.GA10052@infradead.org> <20110701144641.GA23272@elte.hu> <201107011654.06651.ptesarik@suse.cz> <20110701153634.GA27407@elte.hu> <4E0DEF2C.3040504@zytor.com> In-Reply-To: <4E0DEF2C.3040504@zytor.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit To: linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org * H. Peter Anvin wrote: > On 07/01/2011 08:36 AM, Ingo Molnar wrote: > > > > So we could kill multiple birds with the same stone here: > > > > - remove various ugly uses of /dev/mem (including the rootkit usage), > > with or without strict-devmem > > > > - extending it to above-4G for inspection purposes > > > > - allowing to kill /dev/mem access runtime similar to the > > disable_modules lock-down killswitch, for the so inclined. > > > > Would you be interested in modifying your patch-set in such a > > fashion? > > > > There is another use that I have looked at, as well: for testing > purposes, it would be extremely good to be able to dirty and/or > flush an arbitrary physical cache line for testing purposes. > > This is very very similar to /dev/mem usage -- access to an > arbitrary chunk of memory -- and a fully enabled /dev/mem can of > course support this use (just mmap the page with the relevant cache > line). However, it could also be a separate device which could > have looser permissions than /dev/mem; or a set of ioctls on > /dev/mem with a separate kill switch, because no data would ever be > have modified or returned to user space. > > Either way, though, we found that it would share a lot of code with > the /dev/mem implementation, and as such fixing up the underlying > machinery is the sanest way to upstream this. To me that cache flush thing sounds obscure (but still useful) enough to justify a new ioctl over /dev/mem. Not sure it even needs a killswitch, unless there's some real security problem related to it. Thanks, Ingo