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From: "Rafael J. Wysocki" <rjw@sisk.pl>
To: Kevin Hilman <khilman@ti.com>
Cc: Alan Stern <stern@rowland.harvard.edu>,
	Linux PM mailing list <linux-pm@lists.linux-foundation.org>,
	Greg Kroah-Hartman <gregkh@suse.de>,
	Magnus Damm <magnus.damm@gmail.com>,
	Paul Walmsley <paul@pwsan.com>,
	LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	linux-sh@vger.kernel.org, Paul Mundt <lethal@linux-sh.org>
Subject: Re: [Update][PATCH 6/10] PM / Domains: System-wide transitions support for generic domains (v5)
Date: Fri, 08 Jul 2011 19:24:24 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <201107082124.24921.rjw@sisk.pl> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <201107082006.49660.rjw@sisk.pl>

On Friday, July 08, 2011, Rafael J. Wysocki wrote:
> On Friday, July 08, 2011, Kevin Hilman wrote:
> > Alan Stern <stern@rowland.harvard.edu> writes:
> > 
> > > On Fri, 8 Jul 2011, Rafael J. Wysocki wrote:
> > >
> > >> On Friday, July 08, 2011, Kevin Hilman wrote:
> > >> > "Rafael J. Wysocki" <rjw@sisk.pl> writes:
> > >> > 
> > >> > > From: Rafael J. Wysocki <rjw@sisk.pl>
> > >> > >
> > >> > > Make generic PM domains support system-wide power transitions
> > >> > > (system suspend and hibernation).  Add suspend, resume, freeze, thaw,
> > >> > > poweroff and restore callbacks to be associated with struct
> > >> > > generic_pm_domain objects and make pm_genpd_init() use them as
> > >> > > appropriate.
> > >> > >
> > >> > > The new callbacks do nothing for devices belonging to power domains
> > >> > > that were powered down at run time (before the transition).  
> > >> > 
> > >> > Thinking about this some more, how is a driver supposed to reconfigure
> > >> > wakeups during suspend if it has already been runtime suspended?
> > >> 
> > >> If the device belongs to a PM domain that has been powered off, it
> > >> won't be notified.
> > >> 
> > >> > For example, assume a device where device_may_wakeup() = false.  This
> > >> > means wakeups during *suspend* are disabled, but wakeups wakeups are
> > >> > assumed to enabled when it is runtime suspended.
> > >> > 
> > >> > So now, assume this device is RPM_SUSPENDED, it has wakeups *enabled*,
> > >> > and then system suspend comes along.  
> > >> > 
> > >> > With this current patch, the driver will never receive any callbacks, so
> > >> > it can never disable its wakeups.  
> > >> >
> > >> > Am I missing something?
> > >> 
> > >> As I said above, this only happens with devices that belog to PM domains
> > >> that were powered off before system suspend has started, so the problem
> > >> is limited to devices that wakeup is signaled on behalf of even when they
> > >> have no power.
> > 
> > Which on OMAP, is *all* devices, so that's a pretty major limitation.  :)
> 
> So we'll need to avoid it _for_ _OMAP_.  Any of the platforms that will use
> this code in near future doesn't have this limitation, AFAICS, so I don't
> really see a point coding for it right now.
> 
> Your point seems to be that the whole thing has to be ready for OMAP
> in advance and my point is that we can make it ready for OMAP later.
> Which I believe is more pragmatic, because if every platform had adopted
> the other viewpoint, we wouldn't have made any progress at all.
> 
> > >> So this is a limitation, but not affecting all platforms.
> > >> 
> > >> There are a few ways to avoid this limitation I can think of:
> > >> (1) Add a "make me operational during system suspend" flag to struct dev_pm_info
> > >>     and run pm_runtime_resume() on such devices from the core (either dpm_prepare()
> > >>     core, or pm_genpd_prepare()).
> > >
> > > What's to prevent the device from being runtime-suspended again before 
> > > the wakeup setting can be changed?
> > >
> > >> (2) Add a "my .prepare() is safe to run if device is not accessible" flag to
> > >>     struct dev_pm_info and make pm_genpd_prepare() execute .prepare() for such
> > >>     devices regardless of whether or not their PM domains are off.
> > >> (3) Call .prepare() from all drivers unconditionally during system suspend
> > >>     (and probably .complete() too) in the hope they won't access inaccessible
> > >>     devices.
> > 
> > Like Alan's comment above for (1), I think the same applies for (3)
> > since runtime PM transitions can still happen between .prepare() and
> > .suspend()
> 
> Not with the current PM domains code (and please see my reply to Alan).

Well, in fact, since we already have .active_wakeup(), what about the
following patch (on top of https://lkml.org/lkml/2011/7/8/223):

---
 drivers/base/power/domain.c |    4 ++++
 1 file changed, 4 insertions(+)

Index: linux-2.6/drivers/base/power/domain.c
=================================--- linux-2.6.orig/drivers/base/power/domain.c
+++ linux-2.6/drivers/base/power/domain.c
@@ -519,6 +519,10 @@ static int pm_genpd_prepare(struct devic
 		return -EBUSY;
 	}
 
+	if (device_may_wakeup(dev)
+	    && !(genpd->active_wakeup && genpd->active_wakeup(dev)))
+		pm_runtime_resume(dev);
+
 	genpd_acquire_lock(genpd);
 
 	if (genpd->prepared_count++ = 0)

  reply	other threads:[~2011-07-08 19:24 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 87+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2011-06-11 20:23 [PATCH 0/8] PM / Domains: Support for generic I/O PM domains (v5) Rafael J. Wysocki
2011-06-11 20:25 ` [PATCH 1/8] PM / Domains: Update documentation Rafael J. Wysocki
2011-06-11 20:26 ` [PATCH 2/8] PM / Domains: Rename struct dev_power_domain to struct dev_pm_domain Rafael J. Wysocki
2011-06-20 23:37   ` Kevin Hilman
2011-06-11 20:27 ` [PATCH 3/8] PM: subsys_data in struct dev_pm_info need not depend on RM_RUNTIME Rafael J. Wysocki
2011-06-11 20:31 ` [PATCH 4/8] PM / Domains: Support for generic I/O PM domains (v5) Rafael J. Wysocki
2011-06-19 22:02   ` [Update][PATCH 4/8] PM / Domains: Support for generic I/O PM domains (v6) Rafael J. Wysocki
2011-06-21 17:42     ` Kevin Hilman
2011-06-22  0:07       ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2011-06-22 19:51         ` Kevin Hilman
2011-06-22 21:30           ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2011-06-11 20:36 ` [PATCH 5/8] PM: Introduce generic "noirq" callback routines for subsystems Rafael J. Wysocki
2011-06-11 20:37 ` [PATCH 6/8] PM / Domains: Move code from under #ifdef CONFIG_PM_RUNTIME Rafael J. Wysocki
2011-06-11 20:39 ` [PATCH 7/8] PM / Domains: System-wide transitions support for generic PM domains Rafael J. Wysocki
2011-06-11 23:28   ` [Update][PATCH 7/8] PM / Domains: System-wide transitions support for generic domains (v2) Rafael J. Wysocki
2011-06-23 14:19     ` [Update][PATCH 7/8] PM / Domains: System-wide transitions support Alan Stern
2011-06-23 14:44       ` [Update][PATCH 7/8] PM / Domains: System-wide transitions support for generic domains (v3) Rafael J. Wysocki
2011-06-23 15:11     ` [Update][PATCH 7/8] PM / Domains: System-wide transitions support Alan Stern
2011-06-23 17:41       ` [Update][PATCH 7/8] PM / Domains: System-wide transitions support for generic domains (v3) Rafael J. Wysocki
2011-06-23 18:22     ` [Update][PATCH 7/8] PM / Domains: System-wide transitions support Alan Stern
2011-06-23 21:03       ` [Update][PATCH 7/8] PM / Domains: System-wide transitions support for generic domains (v3) Rafael J. Wysocki
2011-06-19 22:06   ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2011-06-20 23:05     ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2011-06-22 21:50     ` Kevin Hilman
2011-06-22 22:16       ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2011-06-22 22:18         ` Kevin Hilman
2011-06-22 22:22           ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2011-06-23 13:57             ` [PATCH] PM / Runtime: Update documentation of interactions with system sleep Rafael J. Wysocki
2011-06-24 18:25               ` Kevin Hilman
2011-06-11 20:40 ` [PATCH 8/8] ARM / shmobile: Support for I/O PM domains for SH7372 (v5) Rafael J. Wysocki
2011-06-14 13:12   ` Magnus Damm
2011-06-14 21:16     ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2011-06-15 14:17       ` Magnus Damm
2011-06-15 23:06         ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2011-06-19 22:07           ` [Update][PATCH 8/8] ARM / shmobile: Support for I/O power domains for SH7372 (v6) Rafael J. Wysocki
2011-06-20  2:01             ` Paul Mundt
2011-06-20 22:30               ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2011-06-21 11:57                 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2011-06-21 12:47                   ` Paul Mundt
2011-07-10 11:45         ` [PATCH 8/8] ARM / shmobile: Support for I/O PM domains for SH7372 (v5) Laurent Pinchart
2011-06-11 20:57 ` [PATCH 0/8] PM / Domains: Support for generic I/O PM domains (v5) Greg KH
2011-06-21  0:02 ` Kevin Hilman
2011-06-21 11:06   ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2011-06-21 14:47     ` [PATCH 0/8] PM / Domains: Support for generic I/O PM domains Kevin Hilman
2011-06-25 21:24 ` [PATCH 0/10 v6] " Rafael J. Wysocki
2011-06-25 21:24   ` [PATCH 1/10 v6] PM / Domains: Rename struct dev_power_domain to struct dev_pm_domain Rafael J. Wysocki
2011-06-25 21:25   ` [PATCH 2/10 v6] PM: subsys_data in struct dev_pm_info need not depend on RM_RUNTIME Rafael J. Wysocki
2011-06-25 21:26   ` [PATCH 3/10 v6] PM / Domains: Support for generic I/O PM domains (v7) Rafael J. Wysocki
2011-06-30  6:14     ` Ming Lei
2011-06-30 18:58       ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2011-07-01 18:11     ` Kevin Hilman
2011-07-01 20:03       ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2011-06-25 21:27   ` [PATCH 4/10 v6] PM: Introduce generic "noirq" callback routines for subsystems (v2) Rafael J. Wysocki
2011-06-25 21:27   ` [PATCH 5/10 v6] PM / Domains: Move code from under #ifdef CONFIG_PM_RUNTIME (v2) Rafael J. Wysocki
2011-06-25 21:28   ` [PATCH 6/10 v6] PM / Domains: System-wide transitions support for generic domains (v4) Rafael J. Wysocki
2011-06-28 23:44     ` [Update][PATCH 6/10] PM / Domains: System-wide transitions support for generic domains (v5) Rafael J. Wysocki
2011-07-08  0:29       ` Kevin Hilman
2011-07-08  9:24         ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2011-07-08 14:37       ` [Update][PATCH 6/10] PM / Domains: System-wide transitions Alan Stern
2011-07-08 17:20         ` [Update][PATCH 6/10] PM / Domains: System-wide transitions support for generic domains (v5) Kevin Hilman
2011-07-08 18:06           ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2011-07-08 19:24             ` Rafael J. Wysocki [this message]
2011-07-09 14:15               ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2011-07-11 15:37                 ` Kevin Hilman
2011-07-11 19:39                   ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2011-07-08 17:56         ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2011-06-25 21:29   ` [PATCH 7/10 v6] PM / Domains: Don't stop wakeup devices during system sleep transitions Rafael J. Wysocki
2011-06-29 23:50     ` Kevin Hilman
2011-06-30 19:37       ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2011-06-30 22:42         ` Kevin Hilman
2011-06-30 22:55           ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2011-06-30 23:14             ` Kevin Hilman
2011-06-30 23:28               ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2011-07-01  0:01                 ` Kevin Hilman
2011-07-01  0:24                   ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2011-07-01 14:34                     ` Kevin Hilman
2011-06-30 23:25             ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2011-07-01 14:45     ` [PATCH 7/10 v6] PM / Domains: Don't stop wakeup devices during Alan Stern
2011-07-01 20:06       ` [PATCH 7/10 v6] PM / Domains: Don't stop wakeup devices during system sleep transitions Rafael J. Wysocki
2011-06-25 21:30   ` [PATCH 8/10 v6] PM: Allow the clocks management code to be used during system suspend Rafael J. Wysocki
2011-06-25 21:30   ` [PATCH 9/10 v6] PM: Rename clock management functions Rafael J. Wysocki
2011-06-25 21:31   ` [PATCH 10/10 v6] ARM / shmobile: Support for I/O power domains for SH7372 (v8) Rafael J. Wysocki
2011-06-27  4:07     ` [PATCH 10/10 v6] ARM / shmobile: Support for I/O power domains Magnus Damm
2011-06-27 19:25       ` [PATCH 10/10 v6] ARM / shmobile: Support for I/O power domains for SH7372 (v8) Rafael J. Wysocki
2011-06-27 23:21         ` [PATCH 10/10 v6] ARM / shmobile: Support for I/O power domains Magnus Damm
2011-06-28 10:08           ` [PATCH 10/10 v6] ARM / shmobile: Support for I/O power domains for SH7372 (v8) Rafael J. Wysocki
2011-07-01 18:27   ` [PATCH 0/10 v6] PM / Domains: Support for generic I/O PM domains Kevin Hilman

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