From: "Rafael J. Wysocki" <rjw@sisk.pl>
To: Arnd Bergmann <arnd@arndb.de>
Cc: Linux PM list <linux-pm@vger.kernel.org>,
Mark Brown <broonie@opensource.wolfsonmicro.com>,
LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
Matthew Garrett <mjg59@srcf.ucam.org>,
Magnus Damm <magnus.damm@gmail.com>,
Grant Likely <grant.likely@secretlab.ca>,
Linux-sh list <linux-sh@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [RFC][PATCH 0/14] PM / shmobile: Pass power domain information via DT (was: Re: [RFD] PM: Device
Date: Wed, 25 Jul 2012 09:29:44 +0000 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <201207251129.44930.rjw@sisk.pl> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <201207242237.28051.rjw@sisk.pl>
On Tuesday, July 24, 2012, Rafael J. Wysocki wrote:
> On Tuesday, July 24, 2012, Arnd Bergmann wrote:
> > On Tuesday 24 July 2012, Rafael J. Wysocki wrote:
> > > On Tuesday, July 24, 2012, Arnd Bergmann wrote:
> > > > On Saturday 21 July 2012, Rafael J. Wysocki wrote:
> >
> > > >
> > > > Sorry for taking so long to reply. I am really not that familiar with the
> > > > power domain requirements, but I do have two comments on your approach:
> > > >
> > > > * I think when we want to add a generic concept to the device tree such
> > > > as power domains, we should always make it specified in a generic way.
> > >
> > > Do we really want that? I'm a bit skeptical, because apparently nobody
> > > cares, as the (zero) response to this patchset evidently indicates and
> > > since nobody cares, it's probably better not to add such "generic" things
> > > just yet.
> >
> > Well, the trouble with bindings is that they are much harder to change
> > later, at least in incompatible ways.
>
> Hmm, so I think you wanted to say that it might be burdensome to retain the
> code handling the old binding once we had started to use a new generic one.
>
> I can agree with that, but that's quite similar to user space interfaces.
> Once we've exposed a user space interface of some kind and someone starts
> to use it, we'll have to maintain it going forward for the user in question.
> However, there is a way to deprecate old user space interfaces and it has
> happened.
>
> In this particular case the burden would be on Renesas, but I don't think it
> would affect anybody else.
Whereas, if we go for a generic binding and get it wrong (which is quite
likely, given the general lack of information on what the needs are), we'll
have a much bigger problem that _will_ affect everyone.
So, my opinion is to go for vendor-specific attributes of limited scope for now,
that will be relatively easy to deprecate in the future.
Thanks,
Rafael
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2012-07-16 21:15 ` [RFC][PATCH 0/14] PM / shmobile: Pass power domain information via DT (was: Re: [RFD] PM: Device tre Rafael J. Wysocki
2012-07-16 21:17 ` [RFC][PATCH 1/14] PM / Domains: Make it possible to use domain names when adding devices Rafael J. Wysocki
2012-07-16 21:18 ` [RFC][PATCH 2/14] ARM: shmobile: Use names of power domains for adding devices to them Rafael J. Wysocki
2012-07-16 21:19 ` [RFC][PATCH 3/14] ARM: shmobile: Drop r8a7779_add_device_to_domain() Rafael J. Wysocki
2012-07-16 21:20 ` [RFC][PATCH 4/14] PM / Domains: Make it possible to use names when adding subdomains Rafael J. Wysocki
2012-07-16 21:21 ` [RFC][PATCH 5/14] ARM: shmobile: Use domain names when adding subdomains to power domains Rafael J. Wysocki
2012-07-16 21:23 ` [RFC][PATCH 6/14] RM: shmobile: Add routine for automatic PM domains initialization Rafael J. Wysocki
2012-07-16 21:24 ` [RFC][PATCH 7/14] ARM: shmobile: Remove dead sh7372 power management code Rafael J. Wysocki
2012-07-16 21:25 ` [RFC][PATCH 8/14] PM / Domains: Add power-on function using names to identify domains Rafael J. Wysocki
2012-07-16 21:26 ` [RFC][PATCH 9/14] ARM: shmobile: Move sh7372's PM domain objects to a table Rafael J. Wysocki
2012-07-16 21:27 ` [RFC][PATCH 10/14] ARM: shmobile: Move r8a7740's " Rafael J. Wysocki
2012-07-16 21:28 ` [RFC][PATCH 11/14] ARM: shmobile: Move r8a7779's " Rafael J. Wysocki
2012-07-16 21:29 ` [RFC][PATCH 12/14] ARM: shmobile: Make rmobile_init_pm_domain() static Rafael J. Wysocki
2012-07-16 21:30 ` [RFC][PATCH 13/14] PM / Domains: Introduce pm_genpd_present() Rafael J. Wysocki
2012-07-16 21:32 ` [RFC][PATCH 14/14] ARM: shmobile: Add support for storing PM domain information in DTs Rafael J. Wysocki
2012-07-21 17:17 ` [RFC][PATCH 0/14] PM / shmobile: Pass power domain information via DT (was: Re: [RFD] PM: Device Rafael J. Wysocki
2012-07-24 15:20 ` Arnd Bergmann
2012-07-24 19:34 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2012-07-24 19:56 ` Arnd Bergmann
2012-07-24 20:37 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2012-07-25 9:29 ` Rafael J. Wysocki [this message]
2012-07-25 13:00 ` Arnd Bergmann
[not found] ` <201207251300.34892.arnd-r2nGTMty4D4@public.gmane.org>
2012-07-25 22:32 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2012-07-26 0:38 ` Kevin Hilman
[not found] ` <87vchb4ar8.fsf-l0cyMroinI0@public.gmane.org>
2012-07-26 20:55 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2012-07-26 21:09 ` Mark Brown
2012-07-26 21:34 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2012-07-26 21:45 ` Kevin Hilman
2012-07-26 21:55 ` Mark Brown
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