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From: Wolfram Sang <wsa@the-dreams.de>
To: linux-sh@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [RFC V2 4/4] i2c: mux: demux-pinctrl: add driver
Date: Thu, 19 Mar 2015 15:53:18 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20150319155318.GE7657@katana> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1426576524-22315-5-git-send-email-wsa@the-dreams.de>

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> > + * Switching a master currently needs some access to either i2c-2 or i2c-3.
> > + * Switching could also be done via sysfs or any other config mechanism.
> > + * For this proof-of-concept, extra busses have been used since it
> > simplifies
> > + * locking a little.
> 
> I have mixed feelings to be honest. When using n internal masters muxed on the 
> same pins, with pin muxing used as a selector, I could agree that we are 
> dealing with n+1 busses, with n busses between the masters and the demux, and 
> one external bus. The two extra virtual busses in your example above bother 
> me.

That was chosen so the access to the "virtual" bus would automatically
do the pinctrl change. As I said somewhere, this could be handled
differently.

> This being said, I see this as an attempt to keep the traditional model of I2C 
> slaves being children of an I2C master while still departing from it at the 
> hardware level. Wouldn't it be better to depart from it from a software point 
> of view as well ? This would allow supporting real multi-master 
> configurations, but would come with a high refactoring cost in kernel code.

You mean the slaves belong to an i2c-bus and this bus can be connected
to masters? Yeah, that would be quite a change. And I am still not
convinced if that would solve the issue that the driver model does not
support re-parenting but rather suggests to delete and recreate the
device. From device_add():

 * Do not call this routine or device_register() more than once for
 * any device structure.  The driver model core is not designed to work
 * with devices that get unregistered and then spring back to life.
 * (Among other things, it's very hard to guarantee that all references
 * to the previous incarnation of @dev have been dropped.)  Allocate
 * and register a fresh new struct device instead.

> I'm also worried about power management, how do you envision its 
> implementation ?

Haven't thought about it so far. That is another reason not to break the
driver model, I guess.

Thanks for your input!

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  parent reply	other threads:[~2015-03-19 15:53 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 5+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2015-03-17  7:15 [RFC V2 4/4] i2c: mux: demux-pinctrl: add driver Wolfram Sang
2015-03-18 13:18 ` Laurent Pinchart
2015-03-19 15:53 ` Wolfram Sang [this message]
2015-04-21 17:55 ` Laurent Pinchart
2015-04-21 18:47 ` Wolfram Sang

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