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From: "Paul E. McKenney" <paulmck@linux.vnet.ibm.com>
To: David Howells <dhowells@redhat.com>
Cc: linux-mips@linux-mips.org, linux-ia64@vger.kernel.org,
	"Michael S. Tsirkin" <mst@redhat.com>,
	Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>,
	Will Deacon <will.deacon@arm.com>,
	virtualization@lists.linux-foundation.org,
	"H. Peter Anvin" <hpa@zytor.com>,
	sparclinux@vger.kernel.org, Ingo Molnar <mingo@kernel.org>,
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	Russell King - ARM Linux <linux@arm.linux.org.uk>,
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	linux-sh@vger.kernel.org, Michael Ellerman <mpe@ellerman.id.au>,
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	Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu>,
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	Arnd Bergmann <arnd@arndb.de>,
	Stefano Stabellini <stefano.stabellini@eu.citrix.com>,
	adi-buildroot-devel@lists.sourceforge.net,
	Leonid Yegoshin <Leonid.Yegoshin@imgtec.com>,
	ddaney.cavm@gmail.com, Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutr>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] documentation: Add disclaimer
Date: Wed, 27 Jan 2016 23:35:04 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20160127233504.GP4503@linux.vnet.ibm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <15882.1453906627@warthog.procyon.org.uk>

On Wed, Jan 27, 2016 at 02:57:07PM +0000, David Howells wrote:
> Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org> wrote:
> 
> > +=====
> > +DISCLAIMER
> > +=====
> > +
> > +This document is not a specification; it is intentionally (for the sake of
> > +brevity) and unintentionally (due to being human) incomplete. This document is
> > +meant as a guide to using the various memory barriers provided by Linux, but
> > +in case of any doubt (and there are many) please ask.
> > +
> > +I repeat, this document is not a specification of what Linux expects from
> > +hardware.
> 
> The purpose of this document is twofold:
> 
>  (1) to specify the minimum functionality that one can rely on for any
>      particular barrier, and
> 
>  (2) to provide a guide as to how to use the barriers that are available.
> 
> Note that an architecture can provide more than the minimum requirement for
> any particular barrier, but if the barrier provides less than that, it is
> incorrect.
> 
> Note also that it is possible that a barrier may be a no-op for an
> architecture because the way that arch works renders an explicit barrier
> unnecessary in that case.
> 
> > +
> 
> Can you bung an extra blank line in here if you have to redo this at all?
> 
> > +====
> > +CONTENTS
> > +====
> >  
> >   (*) Abstract memory access model.

Good point!  Would you be willing to add a Signed-off-by so I
can take the combined change, assuming Peter and Will are good
with it?

							Thanx, Paul


  reply	other threads:[~2016-01-27 23:35 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 153+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2016-01-10 14:16 [PATCH v3 00/41] arch: barrier cleanup + barriers for virt Michael S. Tsirkin
2016-01-10 14:16 ` [PATCH v3 01/41] lcoking/barriers, arch: Use smp barriers in smp_store_release() Michael S. Tsirkin
2016-01-12 16:28   ` Paul E. McKenney
2016-01-12 18:40     ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2016-01-10 14:16 ` [PATCH v3 02/41] asm-generic: guard smp_store_release/load_acquire Michael S. Tsirkin
2016-01-10 14:16 ` [PATCH v3 03/41] ia64: rename nop->iosapic_nop Michael S. Tsirkin
2016-01-10 14:17 ` [PATCH v3 04/41] ia64: reuse asm-generic/barrier.h Michael S. Tsirkin
2016-01-10 14:17 ` [PATCH v3 06/41] s390: " Michael S. Tsirkin
2016-01-10 14:17 ` [PATCH v3 07/41] sparc: " Michael S. Tsirkin
2016-01-10 14:17 ` [PATCH v3 08/41] arm: " Michael S. Tsirkin
2016-01-10 14:17 ` [PATCH v3 09/41] arm64: " Michael S. Tsirkin
2016-01-10 14:17 ` [PATCH v3 10/41] metag: " Michael S. Tsirkin
2016-01-10 14:18 ` [PATCH v3 11/41] mips: " Michael S. Tsirkin
2016-01-12  1:14   ` [v3,11/41] " Leonid Yegoshin
     [not found]     ` <56945366.2090504-1AXoQHu6uovQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2016-01-12  8:43       ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2016-01-12  9:51         ` Peter Zijlstra
2016-01-12  9:27     ` Peter Zijlstra
2016-01-12 10:25       ` Peter Zijlstra
2016-01-12 10:40         ` Peter Zijlstra
2016-01-12 11:41           ` Will Deacon
2016-01-12 20:45             ` Leonid Yegoshin
2016-01-12 21:40               ` Peter Zijlstra
2016-01-13  0:21                 ` Leonid Yegoshin
2016-01-13 10:45               ` Will Deacon
2016-01-13 19:02                 ` Leonid Yegoshin
2016-01-13 20:48                   ` Peter Zijlstra
2016-01-13 20:58                     ` Leonid Yegoshin
     [not found]                       ` <5696BA6E.4070508-1AXoQHu6uovQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2016-01-14 12:04                         ` Will Deacon
2016-01-14 16:16                           ` Paul E. McKenney
2016-01-14 19:42                             ` Leonid Yegoshin
2016-01-14 20:15                               ` Peter Zijlstra
2016-01-14 20:36                                 ` Paul E. McKenney
2016-01-14 20:46                                 ` Peter Zijlstra
2016-01-14 20:46                                 ` Leonid Yegoshin
2016-01-14 21:34                                   ` Paul E. McKenney
2016-01-14 21:45                                     ` Leonid Yegoshin
2016-01-14 22:24                                       ` Paul E. McKenney
2016-01-14 23:04                                         ` Leonid Yegoshin
2016-01-14 20:12                           ` Leonid Yegoshin
2016-01-14 20:48                             ` Paul E. McKenney
2016-01-14 21:24                               ` Leonid Yegoshin
2016-01-14 22:20                                 ` Paul E. McKenney
2016-01-15  9:57                                   ` Will Deacon
2016-01-15 18:54                                     ` Leonid Yegoshin
2016-01-26 10:24                                   ` Peter Zijlstra
2016-01-26 10:32                                     ` Peter Zijlstra
     [not found]                                       ` <20160126103200.GI6375-ndre7Fmf5hadTX5a5knrm8zTDFooKrT+cvkQGrU6aU0@public.gmane.org>
2016-01-26 11:09                                         ` Will Deacon
2016-01-26 20:11                                           ` Paul E. McKenney
2016-01-27  8:35                                             ` [PATCH] documentation: Add disclaimer Peter Zijlstra
2016-01-27 10:11                                               ` Will Deacon
2016-04-14 21:40                                               ` Paul E. McKenney
2016-01-27 14:57                                             ` David Howells
2016-01-27 23:35                                               ` Paul E. McKenney [this message]
2016-01-28 20:02                                               ` David Howells
     [not found]                                               ` <15882.1453906627-S6HVgzuS8uM4Awkfq6JHfwNdhmdF6hFW@public.gmane.org>
2016-04-14 21:40                                                 ` Paul E. McKenney
2016-01-26 19:44                                     ` [v3,11/41] mips: reuse asm-generic/barrier.h Paul E. McKenney
2016-01-18  8:19                               ` Herbert Xu
2016-01-18 15:46                                 ` Paul E. McKenney
2016-01-26 16:52                                   ` Boqun Feng
2016-01-26 17:22                                     ` Peter Zijlstra
2016-01-26 19:44                                       ` Linus Torvalds
2016-01-26 20:10                                         ` Paul E. McKenney
2016-01-26 22:15                                           ` Linus Torvalds
2016-01-26 22:33                                             ` Linus Torvalds
2016-01-26 23:29                                               ` Paul E. McKenney
2016-01-26 23:45                                                 ` Linus Torvalds
2016-01-27  0:57                                                   ` Paul E. McKenney
2016-01-27  2:04                                                 ` Boqun Feng
2016-01-27 23:30                                                   ` Paul E. McKenney
2016-01-27  7:51                                               ` Peter Zijlstra
2016-01-26 19:51                                     ` Paul E. McKenney
2016-01-13 22:26                 ` Leonid Yegoshin
2016-01-14  9:24                   ` Michael S. Tsirkin
     [not found]                   ` <5696CF08.8080700-1AXoQHu6uovQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2016-01-14 12:14                     ` Will Deacon
2016-01-14 19:28                       ` Leonid Yegoshin
2016-01-14 20:34                         ` Paul E. McKenney
2016-01-14 21:01                           ` Leonid Yegoshin
2016-01-14 21:29                             ` Paul E. McKenney
2016-01-14 21:36                               ` Leonid Yegoshin
2016-01-14 22:55                                 ` Paul E. McKenney
2016-01-14 23:33                                   ` Leonid Yegoshin
2016-01-15  0:47                                     ` Paul E. McKenney
2016-01-15  1:07                                       ` Leonid Yegoshin
2016-01-27 11:26                                         ` Maciej W. Rozycki
2016-01-28  0:58                                           ` Leonid Yegoshin
     [not found]                                           ` <56A9656D.3080707@imgtec.com>
2016-01-29 13:38                                             ` Maciej W. Rozycki
     [not found]                                       ` <20160115004753.GN3818-23VcF4HTsmIX0ybBhKVfKdBPR1lH4CV8@public.gmane.org>
2016-01-27 10:40                                         ` Ralf Baechle
2016-01-27 12:09                                           ` Maciej W. Rozycki
2016-01-15 10:24                                   ` Will Deacon
2016-01-15 17:54                                     ` Paul E. McKenney
2016-01-15 19:28                                       ` Paul E. McKenney
2016-01-25 14:41                                         ` Will Deacon
2016-01-26  1:06                                           ` Paul E. McKenney
2016-01-26 12:10                                             ` Will Deacon
2016-01-26 23:37                                               ` Paul E. McKenney
2016-01-27 10:23                                                 ` Will Deacon
2016-01-15  8:55                               ` Peter Zijlstra
2016-01-15  9:13                                 ` Peter Zijlstra
2016-01-15 17:46                                   ` Paul E. McKenney
2016-01-15 21:27                                     ` Peter Zijlstra
2016-01-15 21:58                                       ` Paul E. McKenney
2016-01-25 16:42                                         ` Will Deacon
2016-01-26  6:03                                           ` Paul E. McKenney
2016-01-26 10:19                                             ` Peter Zijlstra
2016-01-26 20:13                                               ` Paul E. McKenney
2016-01-27  8:39                                                 ` Peter Zijlstra
2016-01-26 12:16                                             ` Will Deacon
2016-01-26 14:35                                               ` Boqun Feng
     [not found]                                               ` <20160126121608.GE21553-5wv7dgnIgG8@public.gmane.org>
2016-01-26 19:58                                                 ` Paul E. McKenney
2016-01-27 10:25                                                   ` Will Deacon
2016-01-27 23:32                                                     ` Paul E. McKenney
2016-01-15 17:39                                 ` Paul E. McKenney
2016-01-15 21:29                                   ` Peter Zijlstra
2016-01-15 22:01                                     ` Paul E. McKenney
2016-01-25 18:02                                   ` Will Deacon
2016-01-26  6:12                                     ` Paul E. McKenney
2016-01-26 10:15                                       ` Peter Zijlstra
2016-01-10 14:18 ` [PATCH v3 12/41] x86/um: " Michael S. Tsirkin
2016-01-10 14:18 ` [PATCH v3 13/41] x86: " Michael S. Tsirkin
2016-01-12 14:10   ` Thomas Gleixner
2016-01-10 14:18 ` [PATCH v3 14/41] asm-generic: add __smp_xxx wrappers Michael S. Tsirkin
2016-01-10 14:18 ` [PATCH v3 15/41] powerpc: define __smp_xxx Michael S. Tsirkin
2016-01-10 14:18 ` [PATCH v3 16/41] arm64: " Michael S. Tsirkin
2016-01-10 14:18 ` [PATCH v3 17/41] arm: " Michael S. Tsirkin
2016-01-10 14:19 ` [PATCH v3 18/41] blackfin: " Michael S. Tsirkin
2016-01-10 14:19 ` [PATCH v3 19/41] ia64: " Michael S. Tsirkin
2016-01-10 14:19 ` [PATCH v3 20/41] metag: " Michael S. Tsirkin
2016-01-10 14:19 ` [PATCH v3 21/41] mips: " Michael S. Tsirkin
2016-01-10 14:19 ` [PATCH v3 22/41] s390: " Michael S. Tsirkin
2016-01-10 14:19 ` [PATCH v3 23/41] sh: define __smp_xxx, fix smp_store_mb for !SMP Michael S. Tsirkin
2016-01-10 14:19 ` [PATCH v3 24/41] sparc: define __smp_xxx Michael S. Tsirkin
     [not found] ` <1452426622-4471-1-git-send-email-mst-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2016-01-10 14:17   ` [PATCH v3 05/41] powerpc: reuse asm-generic/barrier.h Michael S. Tsirkin
2016-01-12 16:31     ` Paul E. McKenney
2016-01-10 14:20   ` [PATCH v3 25/41] tile: define __smp_xxx Michael S. Tsirkin
2016-01-10 14:20 ` [PATCH v3 26/41] xtensa: " Michael S. Tsirkin
2016-01-10 14:20 ` [PATCH v3 27/41] x86: " Michael S. Tsirkin
2016-01-12 14:11   ` Thomas Gleixner
2016-01-10 14:20 ` [PATCH v3 28/41] asm-generic: implement virt_xxx memory barriers Michael S. Tsirkin
2016-01-10 14:20 ` [PATCH v3 29/41] Revert "virtio_ring: Update weak barriers to use dma_wmb/rmb" Michael S. Tsirkin
2016-01-10 14:20 ` [PATCH v3 30/41] virtio_ring: update weak barriers to use virt_xxx Michael S. Tsirkin
2016-01-10 14:20 ` [PATCH v3 31/41] sh: support 1 and 2 byte xchg Michael S. Tsirkin
2016-01-10 14:20 ` [PATCH v3 32/41] sh: move xchg_cmpxchg to a header by itself Michael S. Tsirkin
2016-01-10 14:21 ` [PATCH v3 33/41] virtio_ring: use virt_store_mb Michael S. Tsirkin
2016-01-10 14:21 ` [PATCH v3 34/41] checkpatch.pl: add missing memory barriers Michael S. Tsirkin
2016-01-10 14:21 ` [PATCH v3 35/41] checkpatch: check for __smp outside barrier.h Michael S. Tsirkin
2016-01-10 14:21 ` [PATCH v3 36/41] checkpatch: add virt barriers Michael S. Tsirkin
2016-01-10 14:21 ` [PATCH v3 37/41] xenbus: use virt_xxx barriers Michael S. Tsirkin
2016-01-10 14:21 ` [PATCH v3 38/41] xen/io: " Michael S. Tsirkin
2016-01-10 14:21 ` [PATCH v3 39/41] xen/events: " Michael S. Tsirkin
2016-01-11 11:12   ` David Vrabel
2016-01-10 14:22 ` [PATCH v3 40/41] s390: use generic memory barriers Michael S. Tsirkin
2016-01-10 14:22 ` [PATCH v3 41/41] s390: more efficient smp barriers Michael S. Tsirkin
2016-01-12 12:50 ` [PATCH v3 00/41] arch: barrier cleanup + barriers for virt Peter Zijlstra

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