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From: "Luis R. Rodriguez" <mcgrof@kernel.org>
To: James Bottomley <James.Bottomley@HansenPartnership.com>
Cc: One Thousand Gnomes <gnomes@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk>,
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Subject: Re: [RFC v3 00/13] linux: generalize sections, ranges and linker tables
Date: Wed, 10 Aug 2016 17:03:29 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20160810170329.GK3296@wotan.suse.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1470758947.2299.47.camel@HansenPartnership.com>

On Tue, Aug 09, 2016 at 09:09:07AM -0700, James Bottomley wrote:
> On Tue, 2016-08-09 at 15:24 +0100, One Thousand Gnomes wrote:
> > > table development go under copyleft-next, Rusty recently asked for 
> > > code to go in prior to the license tag being added denoting this 
> > > license as GPL-compatible [3] -- I had noted in the patch 
> > > submission which annotated copyleft-next's compatibility to GPLv2 
> > > that copyleft-next is the license of choice for ongoing kernel 
> > > development on my end [4]. If this is objectionable I'm happy to 
> > > change it to GPLv2 however I'd like a reason provided as I've gone 
> > > through all possible channels to ensure this is kosher, including
> > > vetting by 3 attorneys now, 2 at SUSE.
> > 
> > You don't need a new tag, you can use "GPL" or "GPL and additional
> > rights". In fact you don't want any other tag because when combined
> >  with the kernel it is GPLv2 anyway because the only way the two are 
> > fully compatible is for the kernel community to license the derived 
> > work under the GPL.
> 
> This is the module tag ... it says what licence the module is under,
> not the licence for the module combined with the kernel, which is
> always GPLv2 because the stricter licence rules.

As per Linus' recommendations [0] if I add a module I'll be using
MODULE_LICENSE("GPL") if using copyleft-next. Either way this series
didn't add a module yet so no need for that yet, but it does use
copyleft-next in headers / C code.

[0] https://lkml.kernel.org/r/CA+55aFyhxcvD+q7tp+-yrSFDKfR0mOHgyEAe=f_94aKLsOu0Og@mail.gmail.com

> However, if I
> want my binary only modules to be combined with Linux, I have to follow
> GPLv2 compliance because GPLv2 becomes the ruling licence of the
> combination.  The same would apply to this copyleft-next, even after 15
> years.

And this what really matters here.

> The US copyright office defines a copyright work as anything which is
> "an original work of authorship fixed in any tangible medium of
> expression".  That means any change to an existing work (i.e. by a
> patch) which contains enough originality to make the changed work
> distinct from the old work is ipso facto a new work.  under copyright
> -next this new work has a sunset 15 years from its creation by
> combination, not 15 years from the original.  This means a constantly
> updated work never sunsets.  Sure, you can go back 15 years and claim
> the code at that time has passed into the public domain but you can't
> do that if you also want the benefit of later changes.

Agreed.

  Luis

  reply	other threads:[~2016-08-10 17:03 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 56+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2016-07-22 21:24 [RFC v3 00/13] linux: generalize sections, ranges and linker tables Luis R. Rodriguez
2016-07-22 21:24 ` [RFC v3 01/13] x86: remove LTO_REFERENCE_INITCALL() Luis R. Rodriguez
2016-07-22 21:24 ` [RFC v3 02/13] dell-smo8800: include uaccess.h Luis R. Rodriguez
2016-07-22 21:31   ` Pali Rohár
2016-07-22 21:24 ` [RFC v3 03/13] scripts/module-common.lds: enable generation Luis R. Rodriguez
2016-07-22 21:24 ` [RFC v3 04/13] sections.h: guard against asm and linker script Luis R. Rodriguez
2016-07-22 21:24 ` [RFC v3 05/13] sections.h: add sections header to collect all section info Luis R. Rodriguez
2016-07-22 21:37   ` James Hogan
2016-07-22 21:41     ` Luis R. Rodriguez
2016-07-29 17:28     ` Steven Rostedt
2016-07-22 21:24 ` [RFC v3 06/13] ranges.h: add helpers to build and identify Linux section ranges Luis R. Rodriguez
2016-07-22 21:24 ` [RFC v3 07/13] tables.h: add linker table support Luis R. Rodriguez
2016-07-25 15:30   ` Masami Hiramatsu
2016-07-27 23:02     ` Luis R. Rodriguez
2016-07-28 17:08       ` H. Peter Anvin
2016-07-29 10:06   ` Borislav Petkov
2016-08-08 15:05     ` Luis R. Rodriguez
2016-08-09  3:55       ` Borislav Petkov
2016-08-12  3:51         ` Luis R. Rodriguez
2016-08-12  5:23           ` Borislav Petkov
2016-08-12  6:50             ` Luis R. Rodriguez
2016-08-12  7:25               ` Borislav Petkov
2016-08-12 15:28                 ` Luis R. Rodriguez
2016-08-12 15:51                   ` Borislav Petkov
2016-08-12 17:04                     ` Luis R. Rodriguez
2016-08-12 17:35                       ` Borislav Petkov
2016-08-12 20:23                       ` Greg KH
2016-08-12 20:46                         ` Jiri Kosina
2016-08-12 22:00                         ` Luis R. Rodriguez
2016-08-13 10:46                           ` Greg KH
2016-08-13 17:54                             ` Luis R. Rodriguez
2016-07-22 21:24 ` [RFC v3 08/13] firmware/Makefile: force recompilation if makefile changes Luis R. Rodriguez
2016-07-22 21:24 ` [RFC v3 09/13] firmware: port built-in section to linker table Luis R. Rodriguez
2016-07-22 21:24 ` [RFC v3 10/13] jump_label: port __jump_table to linker tables Luis R. Rodriguez
2016-07-22 21:49   ` Josh Poimboeuf
2016-07-22 22:26     ` Luis R. Rodriguez
2016-07-22 22:55       ` Josh Poimboeuf
2016-07-27 22:55         ` Luis R. Rodriguez
2016-07-22 21:24 ` [RFC v3 11/13] dynamic_debug: port to use " Luis R. Rodriguez
2016-07-22 21:24 ` [RFC v3 12/13] kprobes: port .kprobes.text to section range Luis R. Rodriguez
2016-07-25 15:19   ` Masami Hiramatsu
2016-07-27 22:40     ` Luis R. Rodriguez
2016-07-22 21:24 ` [RFC v3 13/13] kprobes: port blacklist kprobes to linker table Luis R. Rodriguez
2016-07-25 15:27   ` Masami Hiramatsu
2016-07-27 23:00     ` Luis R. Rodriguez
2016-07-25 13:32 ` [RFC v3 00/13] linux: generalize sections, ranges and linker tables Masami Hiramatsu
2016-07-25 13:55   ` Richard Fontana
2016-07-27 22:46   ` Luis R. Rodriguez
2016-08-09 14:24 ` One Thousand Gnomes
2016-08-09 16:09   ` James Bottomley
2016-08-10 17:03     ` Luis R. Rodriguez [this message]
     [not found]     ` <CALCETrVmDhPC6BMu4_xTanSFZBKeW9V6A4SeQ4qxnpVod-eLbQ@mail.gmail.com>
     [not found]       ` <1471292106.5944.3.camel@linux.intel.com>
2016-08-15 21:00         ` Steven Rostedt
2016-08-15 22:40         ` James Bottomley
2016-08-15 22:44       ` James Bottomley
2016-08-09 16:48   ` Richard Fontana
2016-08-09 16:52   ` Richard Fontana

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