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From: David Daney <ddaney.cavm@gmail.com>
To: Rob Landley <rob@landley.net>, Richard Weinberger <richard@nod.at>
Cc: Geert Uytterhoeven <geert@linux-m68k.org>,
	Sam Ravnborg <sam@ravnborg.org>,
	Linux-Arch <linux-arch@vger.kernel.org>,
	Michal Marek <mmarek@suse.cz>, Ralf Baechle <ralf@linux-mips.org>,
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	Guan Xuetao <gxt@mprc.pku.edu.cn>,
	Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>,
	Ingo Molnar <mingo@redhat.com>, "H. Peter Anvin" <hpa@zytor.com>,
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Subject: Re: [RFC] Get rid of SUBARCH
Date: Thu, 22 Aug 2013 20:55:20 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <52167AB8.4060206@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1377204069.2737.108@driftwood>

On 08/22/2013 01:41 PM, Rob Landley wrote:
> On 08/22/2013 07:58:26 AM, Geert Uytterhoeven wrote:
>> On Wed, Aug 21, 2013 at 9:51 PM, Sam Ravnborg <sam@ravnborg.org> wrote:
>> >> > The series touches also m68k, sh, mips and unicore32.
>> >> > These architectures magically select a cross compiler if ARCH !>> SUBARCH.
>> >> > Do really need that behavior?
>> >>
>> >> This does remove functionality.
>> >> It allows to build a kernel using e.g. "make ARCH=m68k".
>> >>
>> >> Perhaps this can be moved to generic code? Most (not all!)
>> cross-toolchains
>> >> are called $ARCH-{unknown-,}linux{,-gnu}.
>> >> Exceptions are e.g. am33_2.0-linux and bfin-uclinux.
>> >
>> > Today you can specify CROSS_COMPILE in Kconfig.
>> > With this we should be able to remove these hacks.
>>
>> The correct CROSS_COMPILE value depends on the host environment, not
>> on the target configuration.
>
> Actually it depends on _both_.
>

I think the important issue is not the exact dependencies of the value 
of CROSS_COMPILE, but rather that it varies enough that automatically 
choosing a value based on SUBARCH often gives the wrong result.

Removing SUBARCH and setting CROSS_COMPILE either from the make command 
line (or environment) or the config file, is a good idea because it 
simplifies the build system, makes things clearer, and yields more 
predictable results.

David Daney


  reply	other threads:[~2013-08-22 20:55 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 41+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2013-08-21  8:19 [RFC] Get rid of SUBARCH Richard Weinberger
2013-08-21  8:19 ` [PATCH 1/8] um: Create defconfigs for i386 and x86_64 Richard Weinberger
2013-08-22  4:55   ` Stephen Rothwell
2013-09-26 10:32   ` Ramkumar Ramachandra
2013-09-26 10:35     ` Richard Weinberger
2013-09-26 11:58       ` Ramkumar Ramachandra
2013-09-26 12:04         ` Richard Weinberger
2013-09-27  9:22       ` Toralf Förster
2013-09-27  9:26         ` Richard Weinberger
2013-08-21  8:19 ` [PATCH 2/8] um: Do not use SUBARCH Richard Weinberger
2013-09-26 10:52   ` Ramkumar Ramachandra
2013-09-26 10:44     ` Richard Weinberger
2013-09-26 10:54       ` Ramkumar Ramachandra
2013-09-26 11:01         ` Richard Weinberger
2013-09-26 11:55           ` Ramkumar Ramachandra
2013-09-26 11:56             ` Richard Weinberger
2013-09-26 12:12               ` Ramkumar Ramachandra
2013-09-26 13:25                 ` Ramkumar Ramachandra
2013-09-26 13:26                   ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2013-09-26 13:58                     ` Ramkumar Ramachandra
2013-09-26 14:24                     ` Richard Weinberger
2013-09-26 14:48                       ` Ramkumar Ramachandra
2013-09-26 15:04                         ` Richard Weinberger
2013-09-26 16:18                           ` Ramkumar Ramachandra
2013-09-26 17:10                             ` Richard Weinberger
2013-08-21  8:19 ` [PATCH 3/8] um: Remove old defconfig Richard Weinberger
2013-08-21  8:19 ` [PATCH 4/8] m68k: Do not use SUBARCH Richard Weinberger
2013-08-21  8:19 ` [PATCH 5/8] sh: " Richard Weinberger
2013-08-21  8:19 ` [PATCH 6/8] mips: " Richard Weinberger
2013-08-21  8:19 ` [PATCH 7/8] unicore32: " Richard Weinberger
2013-08-21  8:19 ` [PATCH 8/8] Makefile: Remove SUBARCH Richard Weinberger
2013-08-21 12:07 ` [RFC] Get rid of SUBARCH Geert Uytterhoeven
2013-08-21 12:16   ` Richard Weinberger
2013-08-21 17:25   ` Rob Landley
2013-08-21 19:51   ` Sam Ravnborg
2013-08-22 12:58     ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2013-08-22 20:41       ` Rob Landley
2013-08-22 20:55         ` David Daney [this message]
2013-08-22 21:32           ` Rob Landley
2013-08-21 12:53 ` Thorsten Glaser
2013-08-21 12:58   ` H. Peter Anvin

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