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From: Christian Borntraeger <borntraeger@de.ibm.com>
To: "Michael S. Tsirkin"
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Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 22/32] s390: define __smp_xxx
Date: Tue, 05 Jan 2016 15:39:37 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <568BE3B9.8020901@de.ibm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20160105105335-mutt-send-email-mst-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>

On 01/05/2016 10:30 AM, Michael S. Tsirkin wrote:

> 
> arch/s390/kernel/vdso.c:        smp_mb();
> 
> Looking at
> 	Author: Christian Borntraeger <borntraeger@de.ibm.com>
> 	Date:   Fri Sep 11 16:23:06 2015 +0200
> 
> 	    s390/vdso: use correct memory barrier
> 
> 	    By definition smp_wmb only orders writes against writes. (Finish all
> 	    previous writes, and do not start any future write). To protect the
> 	    vdso init code against early reads on other CPUs, let's use a full
> 	    smp_mb at the end of vdso init. As right now smp_wmb is implemented
> 	    as full serialization, this needs no stable backport, but this change
> 	    will be necessary if we reimplement smp_wmb.
> 
> ok from hypervisor point of view, but it's also strange:
> 1. why isn't this paired with another mb somewhere?
>    this seems to violate barrier pairing rules.
> 2. how does smp_mb protect against early reads on other CPUs?
>    It normally does not: it orders reads from this CPU versus writes
>    from same CPU. But init code does not appear to read anything.
>    Maybe this is some s390 specific trick?
> 
> I could not figure out the above commit.

It was probably me misreading the code. I change a wmb into a full mb here
since I was changing the defintion of wmb to a compiler barrier. I tried to
fixup all users of wmb that really pair with other code. I assumed that there
must be some reader (as there was a wmb before) but I could not figure out
which. So I just played safe here.

But it probably can be removed.

> arch/s390/kvm/kvm-s390.c:       smp_mb();

This can go. If you have a patch, I can carry that via the kvms390 tree,
or I will spin a new patch with you as suggested-by.

Christian


  parent reply	other threads:[~2016-01-05 15:39 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 106+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2015-12-31 19:05 [PATCH v2 00/34] arch: barrier cleanup + barriers for virt Michael S. Tsirkin
2015-12-31 19:05 ` [PATCH v2 01/32] lcoking/barriers, arch: Use smp barriers in smp_store_release() Michael S. Tsirkin
2015-12-31 19:05 ` [PATCH v2 02/32] asm-generic: guard smp_store_release/load_acquire Michael S. Tsirkin
2015-12-31 19:06 ` [PATCH v2 03/32] ia64: rename nop->iosapic_nop Michael S. Tsirkin
2015-12-31 19:06 ` [PATCH v2 04/32] ia64: reuse asm-generic/barrier.h Michael S. Tsirkin
2015-12-31 19:06 ` [PATCH v2 05/32] powerpc: " Michael S. Tsirkin
2015-12-31 19:06 ` [PATCH v2 06/32] s390: " Michael S. Tsirkin
2016-01-04 13:20   ` Peter Zijlstra
2016-01-04 15:03     ` Martin Schwidefsky
2016-01-04 20:42       ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2016-01-05  8:03         ` Martin Schwidefsky
2016-01-04 20:34     ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2015-12-31 19:06 ` [PATCH v2 07/32] sparc: " Michael S. Tsirkin
2015-12-31 19:43   ` David Miller
2015-12-31 19:06 ` [PATCH v2 08/32] arm: " Michael S. Tsirkin
2016-01-02 11:20   ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2015-12-31 19:06 ` [PATCH v2 09/32] arm64: " Michael S. Tsirkin
2015-12-31 19:07 ` [PATCH v2 11/32] mips: " Michael S. Tsirkin
     [not found]   ` <1451572003-2440-12-git-send-email-mst-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2016-01-04 13:26     ` Peter Zijlstra
2015-12-31 19:07 ` [PATCH v2 13/32] x86: " Michael S. Tsirkin
2015-12-31 19:07 ` [PATCH v2 15/32] powerpc: define __smp_xxx Michael S. Tsirkin
2016-01-05  1:36   ` Boqun Feng
     [not found]     ` <20160105013648.GA1256-nNqVUaWX1rAq6Sbylg4iGasjOiXwFzmk@public.gmane.org>
2016-01-05  8:51       ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2016-01-05  9:53         ` Boqun Feng
     [not found]           ` <20160105095341.GA5321-nNqVUaWX1rAq6Sbylg4iGasjOiXwFzmk@public.gmane.org>
2016-01-05 16:16             ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2016-01-06  1:51               ` Boqun Feng
     [not found]                 ` <20160106015152.GA14605-nNqVUaWX1rAq6Sbylg4iGasjOiXwFzmk@public.gmane.org>
2016-01-06 20:23                   ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2016-01-07  0:43                     ` Boqun Feng
2015-12-31 19:07 ` [PATCH v2 16/32] arm64: " Michael S. Tsirkin
2015-12-31 19:07 ` [PATCH v2 17/32] arm: " Michael S. Tsirkin
2016-01-02 11:24   ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2016-01-03  9:12     ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2016-01-04 13:36       ` Peter Zijlstra
2016-01-04 13:54         ` Peter Zijlstra
2016-01-04 13:59           ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2016-01-05 14:38             ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2016-01-04 20:39           ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2016-01-04 20:12         ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2015-12-31 19:08 ` [PATCH v2 18/32] blackfin: " Michael S. Tsirkin
2015-12-31 19:08 ` [PATCH v2 19/32] ia64: " Michael S. Tsirkin
2015-12-31 19:08 ` [PATCH v2 21/32] mips: " Michael S. Tsirkin
2015-12-31 19:08 ` [PATCH v2 22/32] s390: " Michael S. Tsirkin
2016-01-04 13:45   ` Peter Zijlstra
2016-01-04 20:18     ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2016-01-05  8:13       ` Martin Schwidefsky
2016-01-05  9:30         ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2016-01-05 12:08           ` Martin Schwidefsky
2016-01-05 13:04             ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2016-01-05 14:21               ` Martin Schwidefsky
     [not found]           ` <20160105105335-mutt-send-email-mst-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2016-01-05 15:39             ` Christian Borntraeger [this message]
2016-01-05 16:04               ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2015-12-31 19:08 ` [PATCH v2 23/32] sh: define __smp_xxx, fix smp_store_mb for !SMP Michael S. Tsirkin
2015-12-31 19:08 ` [PATCH v2 24/32] sparc: define __smp_xxx Michael S. Tsirkin
2015-12-31 19:44   ` David Miller
2015-12-31 19:09 ` [PATCH v2 25/32] tile: " Michael S. Tsirkin
2015-12-31 19:09 ` [PATCH v2 26/32] xtensa: " Michael S. Tsirkin
2015-12-31 19:09 ` [PATCH v2 28/32] asm-generic: implement virt_xxx memory barriers Michael S. Tsirkin
2015-12-31 19:09 ` [PATCH v2 29/32] Revert "virtio_ring: Update weak barriers to use dma_wmb/rmb" Michael S. Tsirkin
     [not found] ` <1451572003-2440-1-git-send-email-mst-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2015-12-31 19:07   ` [PATCH v2 10/32] metag: reuse asm-generic/barrier.h Michael S. Tsirkin
2016-01-04 23:24     ` James Hogan
2015-12-31 19:07   ` [PATCH v2 12/32] x86/um: " Michael S. Tsirkin
     [not found]     ` <1451572003-2440-13-git-send-email-mst-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2016-01-05 23:12       ` Richard Weinberger
2015-12-31 19:07   ` [PATCH v2 14/32] asm-generic: add __smp_xxx wrappers Michael S. Tsirkin
2015-12-31 19:08   ` [PATCH v2 20/32] metag: define __smp_xxx Michael S. Tsirkin
2016-01-04 13:41     ` Peter Zijlstra
2016-01-04 15:25       ` James Hogan
2016-01-04 15:30         ` Peter Zijlstra
2016-01-04 16:04           ` James Hogan
2016-01-05  0:09     ` James Hogan
     [not found]       ` <20160105000929.GM17861-4bYivNCBEGTR3KXKvIWQxtm+Uo4AYnCiHZ5vskTnxNA@public.gmane.org>
2016-01-11 11:10         ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2015-12-31 19:09   ` [PATCH v2 27/32] x86: " Michael S. Tsirkin
2015-12-31 19:09   ` [PATCH v2 31/32] sh: support a 2-byte smp_store_mb Michael S. Tsirkin
2016-01-04 14:05     ` Peter Zijlstra
2016-01-05 23:27     ` Rich Felker
2016-01-06 11:19       ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2016-01-06 11:40         ` Peter Zijlstra
2016-01-06 11:52           ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2016-01-06 14:32             ` Peter Zijlstra
2016-01-06 15:42               ` Rob Landley
2016-01-06 16:57                 ` Peter Zijlstra
2016-01-06 20:21                   ` Rob Landley
2016-01-06 18:57                 ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2016-01-06 18:23               ` Rich Felker
2016-01-06 20:23                 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2016-01-06 23:53                   ` Rich Felker
2016-01-07 13:37                     ` Peter Zijlstra
2016-01-07 19:05                       ` Rich Felker
2016-01-07 15:50                     ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2016-01-07 17:48                     ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2016-01-07 19:10                       ` Rich Felker
2016-01-07 22:41                         ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2016-01-08  4:25                           ` Rich Felker
2016-01-08  7:23                             ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2016-01-06 22:14                 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2015-12-31 19:10   ` [PATCH v2 33/34] xenbus: use virt_xxx barriers Michael S. Tsirkin
2016-01-04 11:32     ` [Xen-devel] " David Vrabel
2016-01-04 12:03     ` Stefano Stabellini
     [not found]     ` <1451572003-2440-34-git-send-email-mst-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2016-01-04 14:09       ` Peter Zijlstra
2015-12-31 19:09 ` [PATCH v2 32/32] virtio_ring: use virt_store_mb Michael S. Tsirkin
2016-01-01 17:23   ` Sergei Shtylyov
     [not found]     ` <5686B622.6070600-M4DtvfQ/ZS1MRgGoP+s0PdBPR1lH4CV8@public.gmane.org>
2016-01-03  9:01       ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2015-12-31 19:10 ` [PATCH v2 34/34] xen/io: use virt_xxx barriers Michael S. Tsirkin
2016-01-04 11:32   ` [Xen-devel] " David Vrabel
     [not found]   ` <1451572003-2440-35-git-send-email-mst-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2016-01-04 12:05     ` Stefano Stabellini
2016-01-01  9:39 ` [PATCH v2 30/32] virtio_ring: update weak barriers to use __smp_xxx Michael S. Tsirkin
2016-01-01 10:21   ` Michael S. Tsirkin

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