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From: Jassi Brar <jassisinghbrar@gmail.com>
To: linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org
Subject: Re: Locking in the clk API
Date: Sat, 22 Jan 2011 05:30:51 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <AANLkTimW70Wq7hEhgz021ZEknGgsaTXs3nVPNig4F3Tj@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20110122040757.GA2094@richard-laptop>

On Sat, Jan 22, 2011 at 1:08 PM, Richard Zhao <linuxzsc@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Fri, Jan 21, 2011 at 01:47:29PM +0900, Jassi Brar wrote:
>> On Fri, Jan 21, 2011 at 9:09 AM, Jassi Brar <jassisinghbrar@gmail.com> wrote:
>> > On Fri, Jan 21, 2011 at 4:08 AM, Russell King - ARM Linux
>> > <linux@arm.linux.org.uk> wrote:
>> >> On Thu, Jan 20, 2011 at 05:02:55PM +0000, Ben Dooks wrote:
>> >>> If you want to make it so that each low-power mode has to work
>> >>> out what PLLs need to be disabled and then re-enabled makes me
>> >>> want to be sick. Hiding this stuff behind specific implementations
>> >>> is a recipe for disaster.
>> >>
>> >> Why should systems which don't suffer from such problems be prevented
>> >> from gaining power saving from turning off their clocks when devices
>> >> are not being used (eg, the console serial port.)
>> >>
>> >> One solution to your root PLL issue would be to have a separate set of
>> >> enable/disable API calls which get called at setup/release time (or
>> >> whatever you'd like to call it) which can only be called from non-atomic
>> >> context.  Maybe clk_prepare() and clk_unprepare().  These functions
>> >> should perform whatever is necessary to ensure that the clock source
>> >> is available for use atomically when clk_enable() is called.
>> >>
>> >> So, in your case, clk_prepare() ensures that the root PLL is enabled,
>> >> clk_unprepare() allows it to be turned off.
>> >>
>> >> In the case of a console driver, clk_prepare() can be called when we
>> >> know the port will be used as a console.  clk_enable() is then called
>> >> before writing out the string, and clk_disable() after we've completely
>> >> sent the last character.
>> >>
>> >> This allows the best of both worlds.  We now have a clk_enable() which
>> >> can be used to turn the clocks off through the clock tree up to the first
>> >> non-atomic clock, and we also have a way to deal with those which need
>> >> to sleep.  So not only do "sleeping clock" implementations become possible
>> >> but these "sleeping clock" implementations also get the opportunity to
>> >> shutdown some of their clock tree with minimal latency for doing so.
>> >
>> > This is exactly what I suggested in my last post, except the console example.
>> > Only to be a part of common clock api because it's not very safe to assume
>> > future SoCs will have the same simple clock topologies that they have today.
>> >
>> > Not to mean to teach, but I hope you realize with more and more
>> > device controller being crammed into ever shrinking SoCs,
>> > clock would eventually have to be flexible in functionality
>> > and complicated in hierarchy. Ben already gave examples
>> > of Audio, MFC and Video controllers of latest Samsung SoCs.
>>
>> plus
>>
>> a) If only Samsung bsp implements the api, it would be impossible to
>> share drivers, those that can be, with other platforms without nasty ifdef's.
>> b) If the task of unification starts with only a particular platform made to
>> implement a new api, the attempt kills its own purpose.
> I'm not clear. Why does Samsung SoC go against clk_prepare/unprepare?
> If its clock tree has many plls and device clock is not far away from plls and
> may sleep, we may use prepare/unprepare to do actually clock enable/disable.

I am not against clk_prepare/unprepare.
I rather suggest make it part of common clock API.
Please read my last two posts again.

  reply	other threads:[~2011-01-22  5:30 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 81+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2011-01-11  2:16 Locking in the clk API Jeremy Kerr
2011-01-11  3:15 ` Paul Mundt
2011-01-11  4:11   ` Jeremy Kerr
2011-01-11  4:54     ` Paul Mundt
2011-01-20 16:32       ` Ben Dooks
2011-01-20 18:57         ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2011-01-21  3:43           ` Saravana Kannan
2011-01-21  9:31             ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2011-01-11  9:03     ` Sascha Hauer
2011-01-11  9:28       ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2011-01-11 14:34         ` Pavel Machek
2011-01-20 16:29   ` Ben Dooks
2011-01-20 18:56     ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2011-01-20 21:30       ` Nicolas Pitre
2011-01-21  2:06         ` Dima Zavin
2011-01-21  4:12           ` Saravana Kannan
2011-01-21  9:32             ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2011-01-21 21:03             ` Dima Zavin
2011-01-21 21:53               ` Nicolas Pitre
2011-01-21 22:02                 ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2011-01-21 22:28                   ` Colin Cross
2011-01-21 23:21                     ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2011-01-21 23:50                     ` Nicolas Pitre
2011-01-22  1:35                     ` Saravana Kannan
2011-01-22  2:22                       ` Colin Cross
2011-01-21 22:29                   ` Nicolas Pitre
2011-01-21 23:28                 ` Bryan Huntsman
2011-01-11  9:16 ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2011-01-11  9:44   ` Jeremy Kerr
2011-01-11 10:13     ` Paul Mundt
2011-01-11 10:30       ` Jeremy Kerr
2011-01-11 12:18         ` Paul Mundt
2011-01-11 13:52           ` 
2011-01-11 14:35           ` Jeremy Kerr
2011-01-12  3:25             ` Saravana Kannan
2011-01-12  7:40               ` 
2011-01-12  1:54           ` Saravana Kannan
2011-01-12  2:25             ` Paul Mundt
2011-01-20 16:57               ` Ben Dooks
2011-01-20 16:53           ` Ben Dooks
2011-01-20 16:40       ` Ben Dooks
2011-01-11 10:39     ` 
2011-01-11 10:47       ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2011-01-11 10:56         ` 
2011-01-11 11:15       ` Richard Zhao
2011-01-20 17:02         ` Ben Dooks
2011-01-20 19:08           ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2011-01-21  0:09             ` Jassi Brar
2011-01-21  4:47               ` Jassi Brar
2011-01-21  9:39                 ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2011-01-21 10:11                   ` Jassi Brar
2011-01-22  4:08                 ` Richard Zhao
2011-01-22  5:30                   ` Jassi Brar [this message]
2011-01-21  7:16             ` Saravana Kannan
2011-01-21  9:40               ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2011-01-27  4:34                 ` Saravana Kannan
2011-01-27  8:54                   ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2011-01-27 20:30                     ` Saravana Kannan
2011-01-27 20:43                       ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2011-01-27 21:07                         ` Alan Cox
2011-01-27 21:11                           ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2011-01-27 21:15                           ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2011-01-28  3:29                           ` Saravana Kannan
2011-01-28  3:27                         ` Saravana Kannan
2011-01-11 12:23   ` Jassi Brar
2011-01-12  2:56   ` Saravana Kannan
2011-01-12  9:03     ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2011-01-15 14:02       ` Christer Weinigel
2011-01-15 14:53         ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2011-01-15 15:03           ` 
2011-01-15 15:15             ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2011-01-15 16:03               ` 
2011-01-15 16:21                 ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2011-01-15 16:31                   ` 
2011-01-16  6:59               ` Grant Likely
2011-01-15 17:07           ` Christer Weinigel
2011-01-15 17:20             ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2011-01-15 17:44               ` Christer Weinigel
2011-01-15 20:30                 ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2011-01-17  1:19 ` Jeremy Kerr
2011-01-17  1:27 ` Jeremy Kerr

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