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From: Guennadi Liakhovetski <g.liakhovetski@gmx.de>
To: Laurent Pinchart <laurent.pinchart@ideasonboard.com>
Cc: linux-media@vger.kernel.org, Hans Verkuil <hverkuil@xs4all.nl>,
	Sylwester Nawrocki <s.nawrocki@samsung.com>,
	Sylwester Nawrocki <sylvester.nawrocki@gmail.com>,
	linux-sh@vger.kernel.org, Magnus Damm <magnus.damm@gmail.com>,
	Sakari Ailus <sakari.ailus@iki.fi>,
	Prabhakar Lad <prabhakar.lad@ti.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 1/6 v4] media: V4L2: support asynchronous subdevice registration
Date: Tue, 08 Jan 2013 09:56:43 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.64.1301081052100.1794@axis700.grange> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1917427.TMDygJ49eg@avalon>

On Tue, 8 Jan 2013, Laurent Pinchart wrote:

> Hi Guennadi,
> 
> On Tuesday 08 January 2013 10:25:15 Guennadi Liakhovetski wrote:
> > On Tue, 8 Jan 2013, Laurent Pinchart wrote:
> > > On Monday 07 January 2013 11:23:55 Guennadi Liakhovetski wrote:
> > > > >From 0e1eae338ba898dc25ec60e3dba99e5581edc199 Mon Sep 17 00:00:00 2001

[snip]

> > > > +int v4l2_async_notifier_register(struct v4l2_device *v4l2_dev,
> > > > +				 struct v4l2_async_notifier *notifier);
> > > > +void v4l2_async_notifier_unregister(struct v4l2_async_notifier
> > > > *notifier);
> > > > +/*
> > > > + * If subdevice probing fails any time after v4l2_async_subdev_bind(),
> > > > no
> > > > + * clean up must be called. This function is only a message of
> > > > intention.
> > > > + */
> > > > +int v4l2_async_subdev_bind(struct v4l2_async_subdev_list *asdl);
> > > > +int v4l2_async_subdev_bound(struct v4l2_async_subdev_list *asdl);
> > > 
> > > Could you please explain why you need both a bind notifier and a bound
> > > notifier ? I was expecting a single v4l2_async_subdev_register() call in
> > > subdev drivers (and, thinking about it, I would probably name it
> > > v4l2_subdev_register()).
> > 
> > I think I can, yes. Because between .bind() and .bound() the subdevice
> > driver does the actual hardware probing. So, .bind() is used to make sure
> > the hardware can be accessed, most importantly to provide a clock to the
> > subdevice. You can look at soc_camera_async_bind(). There I'm registering
> > the clock for the subdevice, about to bind. Why I cannot do it before, is
> > because I need subdevice name for clock matching. With I2C subdevices the
> > subdevice name contains the name of the driver, adapter number and i2c
> > address. The latter 2 I've got from host subdevice list. But not the
> > driver name. I thought about also passing the driver name there, but that
> > seemed too limiting to me. I also request regulators there, because before
> > ->bound() the sensor driver, but that could be done on the first call to
> > soc_camera_power_on(), although doing this "first call" thingie is kind of
> > hackish too. I could add one more soc-camera-power helper like
> > soc_camera_prepare() or similar too.
> 
> I think a soc_camera_power_init() function (or similar) would be a good idea, 
> yes.
> 
> > So, the main problem is the clock
> > subdevice name. Also see the comment in soc_camera.c:
> > 
> > 	/*
> > 	 * It is ok to keep the clock for the whole soc_camera_device life-time,
> > 	 * in principle it would be more logical to register the clock on icd
> > 	 * creation, the only problem is, that at that time we don't know the
> > 	 * driver name yet.
> > 	 */
> 
> I think we should fix that problem instead of shaping the async API around a 
> workaround :-)
> 
> >From the subdevice point of view, the probe function should request resources, 
> perform whatever initialization is needed (including verifying that the 
> hardware is functional when possible), and the register the subdev with the 
> code if everything succeeded. Splitting registration into bind() and bound() 
> appears a bit as a workaround to me.
> 
> If we need a workaround, I'd rather pass the device name in addition to the 
> I2C adapter number and address, instead of embedding the workaround in this 
> new API.

...or we can change the I2C subdevice name format. The actual need to do

	snprintf(clk_name, sizeof(clk_name), "%s %d-%04x",
		 asdl->dev->driver->name,
		 i2c_adapter_id(client->adapter), client->addr);

in soc-camera now to exactly match the subdevice name, as created by 
v4l2_i2c_subdev_init(), doesn't make me specifically happy either. What if 
the latter changes at some point? Or what if one driver wishes to create 
several subdevices for one I2C device?

Thanks
Guennadi

> > > > +void v4l2_async_subdev_unbind(struct v4l2_async_subdev_list *asdl);
> > > > +#endif
> 
> -- 
> Regards,
> 
> Laurent Pinchart
> 

---
Guennadi Liakhovetski, Ph.D.
Freelance Open-Source Software Developer
http://www.open-technology.de/

  reply	other threads:[~2013-01-08  9:56 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 31+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2012-12-26 17:49 [PATCH v3 0/6] V4L2 asynchronous probing + soc-camera example Guennadi Liakhovetski
2012-12-26 17:49 ` [PATCH 1/6] media: V4L2: support asynchronous subdevice registration Guennadi Liakhovetski
2013-01-07 10:23   ` [PATCH 1/6 v4] " Guennadi Liakhovetski
2013-01-08  8:10     ` Laurent Pinchart
2013-01-08  9:25       ` Guennadi Liakhovetski
2013-01-08  9:41         ` Laurent Pinchart
2013-01-08  9:56           ` Guennadi Liakhovetski [this message]
2013-01-08 10:21             ` Laurent Pinchart
2013-01-08 10:26               ` Guennadi Liakhovetski
2013-01-08 10:35                 ` Laurent Pinchart
2013-01-08 11:37                   ` Sylwester Nawrocki
2013-01-08 12:41                     ` Laurent Pinchart
2013-01-08 13:15                       ` Sakari Ailus
2013-01-08 21:17                         ` Laurent Pinchart
2013-03-12 16:59                           ` V4L2 subdevice naming (was Re: [PATCH 1/6 v4] media: V4L2: support asynchronous subdevice registrati Guennadi Liakhovetski
2013-01-08 14:27                       ` [PATCH 1/6 v4] media: V4L2: support asynchronous subdevice registration Sylwester Nawrocki
2013-01-08 21:20                         ` Laurent Pinchart
2013-01-08 19:26                 ` Sylwester Nawrocki
2013-01-08 14:52       ` Sylwester Nawrocki
2013-01-08 21:23         ` Laurent Pinchart
2013-01-08 10:06     ` [PATCH 1/6 v5] " Guennadi Liakhovetski
2013-01-10  5:42       ` Prabhakar Lad
2012-12-26 17:49 ` [PATCH 2/6] media: soc-camera: switch I2C subdevice drivers to use v4l2-clk Guennadi Liakhovetski
2013-01-08  8:02   ` Laurent Pinchart
2012-12-26 17:49 ` [PATCH 3/6] soc-camera: add V4L2-async support Guennadi Liakhovetski
2012-12-26 17:49 ` [PATCH 4/6] sh_mobile_ceu_camera: add asynchronous subdevice probing support Guennadi Liakhovetski
2012-12-26 17:49 ` [PATCH 5/6] imx074: support asynchronous probing Guennadi Liakhovetski
2012-12-26 17:49 ` [PATCH 6/6] ARM: shmobile: convert ap4evb to asynchronously register camera subdevices Guennadi Liakhovetski
2013-01-08  4:27   ` Simon Horman
2013-01-08 22:35     ` Guennadi Liakhovetski
2013-01-09  0:04       ` Simon Horman

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