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From: Guennadi Liakhovetski <g.liakhovetski@gmx.de>
To: Barry Song <21cnbao@gmail.com>
Cc: Sylwester Nawrocki <sylvester.nawrocki@gmail.com>,
	Mark Brown <broonie@opensource.wolfsonmicro.com>,
	linux-media@vger.kernel.org, linux-sh@vger.kernel.org,
	devicetree-discuss@lists.ozlabs.org,
	Magnus Damm <magnus.damm@gmail.com>,
	Hans Verkuil <hverkuil@xs4all.nl>,
	Laurent Pinchart <laurent.pinchart@ideasonboard.com>,
	"renwei.wu" <renwei.wu@csr.com>,
	DL-SHA-WorkGroupLinux <workgroup.linux@csr.com>,
	xiaomeng.hou@csr.com, zilong.wu@csr.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH 07/14] media: soc-camera: support deferred probing of clients
Date: Wed, 10 Apr 2013 14:43:21 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.64.1304101637300.13557@axis700.grange> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAGsJ_4z-FnbHtmbi16YD5LmYfpL+=ngke8EgkPHWy_PJ8QBPNg@mail.gmail.com>

On Wed, 10 Apr 2013, Barry Song wrote:

> 2013/4/10 Guennadi Liakhovetski <g.liakhovetski@gmx.de>:
> > On Wed, 10 Apr 2013, Barry Song wrote:

[snip]

> >> > This cannot work, because some I2C devices, e.g. sensors, need a clock
> >> > signal from the camera interface to probe. Before the bridge driver has
> >> > completed its probing and registered a suitable clock source with the
> >> > v4l2-clk framework, sensors cannot be probed. And no, we don't want to
> >> > fake successful probing without actually being able to talk to the
> >> > hardware.
> >>
> >> i'd say same dependency also exists on ASoC.  a "fake" successful
> >> probing doesn't mean it should really begin to work if there is no
> >> external trigger source.  ASoC has successfully done that by a machine
> >> driver to connect all DAI.
> >> a way is we put all things ready in their places, finally we connect
> >> them together and launch the whole hardware flow.
> >>
> >> anyway, if you have maken the things work by some simple hacking and
> >> that means minimial changes to current soc-camera, i think we can
> >> follow.
> >
> > If you want to volunteer to step up as a new soc-camera maintainer to
> > replace my simple hacking with your comprehencive and advanced designs -
> > feel free, I'll ack straight away.
> 
> i am not sure whether you agree the new way or not. if you also agree
> this is a better way,

In fact I don't.

> i think we can do something to move ahead. i
> need sync and get input from you expert :-)

I suggest you read all the mailing list discussions of these topics over 
last months / years, conference discussion protocols instead of restarting 
a beaten to death topic at the v8 time-frame.

Thanks
Guennadi
---
Guennadi Liakhovetski, Ph.D.
Freelance Open-Source Software Developer
http://www.open-technology.de/

  reply	other threads:[~2013-04-10 14:43 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 97+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2012-09-27 14:07 [PATCH 00/14] V4L2 DT support Guennadi Liakhovetski
2012-09-27 14:07 ` [PATCH 01/14] i2c: add dummy inline functions for when CONFIG_OF_I2C(_MODULE) isn't defined Guennadi Liakhovetski
2012-09-27 14:07 ` [PATCH 02/14] of: add a dummy inline function for when CONFIG_OF is not defined Guennadi Liakhovetski
2012-09-28 11:05   ` [PATCH 15/14] OF: define of_*_cmp() macros also if CONFIG_OF isn't set Guennadi Liakhovetski
2012-09-27 14:07 ` [PATCH 04/14] media: add V4L2 DT binding documentation Guennadi Liakhovetski
2012-10-01 20:45   ` Sylwester Nawrocki
     [not found]   ` <1348754853-28619-5-git-send-email-g.liakhovetski-Mmb7MZpHnFY@public.gmane.org>
2012-10-02 14:15     ` Rob Herring
2012-10-02 14:33       ` Guennadi Liakhovetski
2012-10-03 20:54         ` Rob Herring
2012-10-05  9:43           ` Guennadi Liakhovetski
2012-10-05 11:31             ` Hans Verkuil
2012-10-05 11:37               ` Guennadi Liakhovetski
2012-10-08 20:00         ` Stephen Warren
2012-10-08 20:59           ` Laurent Pinchart
2012-10-08 21:14             ` Guennadi Liakhovetski
2012-10-09  9:21               ` Hans Verkuil
2012-10-09  9:29                 ` Guennadi Liakhovetski
2012-10-05 15:10     ` Sascha Hauer
2012-10-05 15:41       ` Guennadi Liakhovetski
2012-10-05 16:02         ` Sascha Hauer
2012-10-08  7:58           ` Guennadi Liakhovetski
2012-10-10  8:40             ` Sascha Hauer
2012-10-10  8:51               ` Mark Brown
2012-10-10  9:21                 ` Sascha Hauer
2012-10-10 10:46                   ` Mark Brown
2012-10-08 20:12   ` Stephen Warren
2012-09-27 14:07 ` [PATCH 05/14] media: add a V4L2 OF parser Guennadi Liakhovetski
2012-10-01 21:37   ` Sylwester Nawrocki
2012-10-02  9:49     ` Guennadi Liakhovetski
     [not found]       ` <Pine.LNX.4.64.1210021142210.15778-0199iw4Nj15frtckUFj5Ag@public.gmane.org>
2012-10-02 10:13         ` Sylwester Nawrocki
2012-10-02 11:04           ` Guennadi Liakhovetski
2012-10-05 10:41           ` Hans Verkuil
2012-10-05 10:58             ` Guennadi Liakhovetski
2012-10-05 11:23               ` Hans Verkuil
2012-10-05 11:35                 ` Guennadi Liakhovetski
2012-10-08 12:23                 ` Guennadi Liakhovetski
2012-10-08 13:48                   ` Hans Verkuil
2012-10-08 14:30                     ` Guennadi Liakhovetski
2012-10-08 14:53                       ` Hans Verkuil
2012-10-08 15:15                         ` Guennadi Liakhovetski
2012-10-08 15:41                           ` Hans Verkuil
2012-10-08 15:53                             ` Guennadi Liakhovetski
     [not found]                               ` <Pine.LNX.4.64.1210081748390.14454-0199iw4Nj15frtckUFj5Ag@public.gmane.org>
2012-10-08 16:00                                 ` Guennadi Liakhovetski
2012-10-10 13:22                             ` Laurent Pinchart
2012-10-10 13:18                           ` Laurent Pinchart
2012-10-10 16:50                             ` Stephen Warren
2012-10-10 22:51                               ` Laurent Pinchart
2012-10-11 16:15                                 ` Stephen Warren
2012-10-10 13:12                         ` Laurent Pinchart
2012-10-10 12:54                   ` Laurent Pinchart
2012-10-10 13:45                     ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2012-10-10 14:48                       ` Laurent Pinchart
2012-10-10 14:57                         ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2012-10-10 15:15                           ` Laurent Pinchart
2012-10-11 19:48                   ` Sakari Ailus
2012-10-13  0:16                     ` Guennadi Liakhovetski
2012-10-05 18:30               ` Sylwester Nawrocki
2012-10-05 18:45                 ` Mark Brown
2012-10-08  9:40                 ` Guennadi Liakhovetski
2012-10-09 10:34                   ` Sylwester Nawrocki
2012-10-09 11:00                     ` Hans Verkuil
2012-10-10 13:25                       ` Laurent Pinchart
2012-10-10 20:23                         ` Sylwester Nawrocki
2012-10-10 20:32                           ` Guennadi Liakhovetski
2012-10-10 21:12                             ` Sylwester Nawrocki
2012-10-10 23:05                             ` Laurent Pinchart
     [not found]                           ` <5075D947.3080903-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
2012-10-10 22:58                             ` Laurent Pinchart
2012-10-08 21:30               ` Laurent Pinchart
2012-10-08 10:03   ` Sylwester Nawrocki
2012-09-27 14:07 ` [PATCH 06/14] media: soc-camera: prepare for asynchronous client probing Guennadi Liakhovetski
2012-09-27 14:07 ` [PATCH 07/14] media: soc-camera: support deferred probing of clients Guennadi Liakhovetski
2013-04-10 10:38   ` Barry Song
     [not found]     ` <CAGsJ_4yUY6PE0NWZ9yaOLFmRb3O-HL55=w7Y6muwL0YbkJtP0Q-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2013-04-10 12:06       ` Guennadi Liakhovetski
2013-04-10 13:53         ` Barry Song
2013-04-10 13:56           ` Mark Brown
2013-04-10 14:00             ` Barry Song
2013-04-10 14:03           ` Guennadi Liakhovetski
2013-04-10 14:30             ` Barry Song
2013-04-10 14:43               ` Guennadi Liakhovetski [this message]
2013-04-10 15:02                 ` Barry Song
2012-09-27 14:07 ` [PATCH 08/14] media: soc-camera: use managed devm_regulator_bulk_get() Guennadi Liakhovetski
2012-09-27 17:50   ` Sachin Kamat
2012-09-27 14:07 ` [PATCH 09/14] media: mt9t112: support deferred probing Guennadi Liakhovetski
     [not found] ` <1348754853-28619-1-git-send-email-g.liakhovetski-Mmb7MZpHnFY@public.gmane.org>
2012-09-27 14:07   ` [PATCH 03/14] OF: make a function pointer argument const Guennadi Liakhovetski
2012-09-27 14:07   ` [PATCH 10/14] media: soc-camera: support OF cameras Guennadi Liakhovetski
2012-10-05 19:11     ` Sylwester Nawrocki
2012-10-08  8:37       ` Guennadi Liakhovetski
2012-10-08  9:28         ` Sylwester Nawrocki
2013-04-08  9:19     ` Barry Song
     [not found]       ` <CAGsJ_4zYvF-U0_ETs9EP8i+bOJiJLkXWrJdMNnW_sXU-QwnXQw-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2013-04-08 11:21         ` Guennadi Liakhovetski
2013-04-08 11:49           ` Barry Song
2012-09-27 14:07   ` [PATCH 11/14] media: sh-mobile-ceu-camera: runtime PM suspending doesn't have to be synchronous Guennadi Liakhovetski
2012-09-27 14:07 ` [PATCH 12/14] media: sh-mobile-ceu-camera: add primitive OF support Guennadi Liakhovetski
2012-09-27 14:07 ` [PATCH 13/14] media: sh-mobile-ceu-driver: support max width and height in DT Guennadi Liakhovetski
2012-09-27 14:07 ` [PATCH 14/14] media: sh_mobile_ceu_camera: support all standard V4L2 DT properties Guennadi Liakhovetski
2012-10-05 12:32 ` [PATCH 00/14] V4L2 DT support Sylwester Nawrocki
2012-10-05 14:41   ` Guennadi Liakhovetski

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