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From: Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>
To: Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>
Cc: Linus Walleij <linus.ml.walleij@gmail.com>,
	Paul Mundt <lethal@linux-sh.org>, Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu>,
	Andrew Victor <linux@maxim.org.za>,
	Haavard Skinnemoen <hskinnemoen@atmel.com>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-sh@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-arm-kernel@lists.arm.linux.org.uk,
	John Stultz <johnstul@linux.vnet.ibm.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] sched: Support current clocksource handling in fallback
Date: Tue, 26 May 2009 20:17:02 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <alpine.LFD.2.00.0905262209160.1762@localhost.localdomain> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1243348681.23657.14.camel@twins>

On Tue, 26 May 2009, Peter Zijlstra wrote:
> Added the generic clock and timer folks to CC.
> 
> On Tue, 2009-05-26 at 16:31 +0200, Linus Walleij wrote:
> > 2009/5/26 Paul Mundt <lethal@linux-sh.org>:
> > 
> > >  */
> > >  unsigned long long __attribute__((weak)) sched_clock(void)
> > >  {
> > > +       /*
> > > +        * Use the current clocksource when it becomes available later in
> > > +        * the boot process, and ensure that it has a high enough rating
> > > +        * to make it suitable for general use.
> > > +        */
> > > +       if (clock && clock->rating >= 100)
> > > +               return cyc2ns(clock, clocksource_read(clock));
> > > +
> > > +       /* Otherwise just fall back on jiffies */
> > >        return (unsigned long long)(jiffies - INITIAL_JIFFIES)
> > >                                        * (NSEC_PER_SEC / HZ);
> > >  }
> > 
> > This seems like it would make the patch I sent the other day
> > unnecessary (subject u300 sched_clock() implementation).
> > 
> > It would also trim off this solution found in all OMAP platforms in
> > arch/arm/plat-omap/common.c
> > 
> > BUT Peter Zijlstra replied to my question about why this wasn't
> > generic with:
> > 
> > [peterz]:
> > > But that is the reason this isn't generic, non of the 'stable'
> > > clocksources on x86 are fast enough to use as sched_clock.
> > 
> > Does that mean clock->rating for these clocksources is
> > for certain < 100?
> > 
> > The definition of "rating" from the kerneldoc does not
> > seem to imply that, it's a subjective measure AFAICT.

  Right, there is no rating threshold defined, which allows to deduce
  that. The TSC on x86 which might be unreliable, but usable as
  sched_clock has an initial rating of 300 which can be changed later
  on to 0 when the TSC is unusable as a time of day source. In that
  case clock is replaced by HPET which has a rating > 100 but is
  definitely not a good choice for sched_clock

> > Else you might want an additional criteria, like
> > cyc2ns(1) (much less than) jiffies_to_usecs(1)*1000
> > (however you do that the best way)
> > so you don't pick something
> > that isn't substantially faster than the jiffy counter atleast?

  What we can do is add another flag to the clocksource e.g.
  CLOCK_SOURCE_USE_FOR_SCHED_CLOCK and check this instead of the
  rating.

Thanks,

	tglx

  reply	other threads:[~2009-05-26 20:17 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 57+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2009-05-26  6:15 [PATCH] sched: Support current clocksource handling in fallback sched_clock() Paul Mundt
2009-05-26 14:31 ` [PATCH] sched: Support current clocksource handling in fallback Linus Walleij
2009-05-26 14:38   ` [PATCH] sched: Support current clocksource handling in Peter Zijlstra
2009-05-26 20:17     ` Thomas Gleixner [this message]
2009-05-26 23:08       ` [PATCH] sched: Support current clocksource handling in fallback sched_clock() Paul Mundt
2009-05-26 23:13         ` Paul Mundt
2009-05-26 23:25         ` [PATCH] sched: Support current clocksource handling in john stultz
2009-05-26 23:44           ` [PATCH] sched: Support current clocksource handling in fallback sched_clock() Paul Mundt
2009-05-27  0:18             ` [PATCH] sched: Support current clocksource handling in fallback Thomas Gleixner
2009-05-27  0:22             ` [PATCH] sched: Support current clocksource handling in john stultz
2009-05-27  0:26               ` [PATCH] sched: Support current clocksource handling in fallback sched_clock() Paul Mundt
2009-05-27  1:09                 ` [PATCH] sched: Support current clocksource handling in john stultz
2009-05-27  0:27               ` [PATCH] sched: Support current clocksource handling in fallback Thomas Gleixner
2009-05-26 23:49         ` Thomas Gleixner
2009-05-27  0:15           ` [PATCH] sched: Support current clocksource handling in fallback sched_clock() Paul Mundt
2009-05-27 16:25             ` [PATCH] sched: Support current clocksource handling in Daniel Walker
2009-05-28  8:44               ` [PATCH] sched: Support current clocksource handling in fallback sched_clock() Paul Mundt
2009-05-28  9:19               ` Paul Mundt
2009-05-28  9:34                 ` [PATCH] sched: Support current clocksource handling in Peter Zijlstra
2009-05-28 11:09                   ` [PATCH] sched: Support current clocksource handling in fallback sched_clock() Paul Mundt
2009-05-28 12:22                     ` [PATCH] sched: Support current clocksource handling in fallback Thomas Gleixner
2009-05-28 12:40                       ` [PATCH] sched: Support current clocksource handling in Peter Zijlstra
2009-05-28 12:42                       ` [PATCH] sched: Support current clocksource handling in fallback sched_clock() Paul Mundt
2009-05-28 12:53                         ` [PATCH] sched: Support current clocksource handling in fallback Thomas Gleixner
2009-05-28 12:59                         ` [PATCH] sched: Support current clocksource handling in Peter Zijlstra
2009-05-28 13:20                           ` [PATCH] sched: Support current clocksource handling in fallback sched_clock() Paul Mundt
2009-05-28 16:13                           ` [PATCH] sched: Support current clocksource handling in Daniel Walker
2009-05-28 16:32                             ` Peter Zijlstra
2009-05-28 16:40                               ` [PATCH] sched: Support current clocksource handling in fallback sched_clock() Paul Mundt
2009-05-28 16:52                                 ` [PATCH] sched: Support current clocksource handling in Daniel Walker
2009-05-28 16:58                                   ` [PATCH] sched: Support current clocksource handling in fallback sched_clock() Paul Mundt
2009-05-28 17:38                                     ` [PATCH] sched: Support current clocksource handling in Daniel Walker
2009-05-28 17:46                                       ` [PATCH] sched: Support current clocksource handling in fallback Thomas Gleixner
2009-05-28 17:53                                       ` [PATCH] sched: Support current clocksource handling in fallback sched_clock() Paul Mundt
2009-05-28 18:10                                         ` [PATCH] sched: Support current clocksource handling in Daniel Walker
2009-05-28 18:27                                           ` [PATCH] sched: Support current clocksource handling in fallback sched_clock() Paul Mundt
2009-05-28 19:04                                             ` [PATCH] sched: Support current clocksource handling in Daniel Walker
2009-05-28 19:34                                               ` [PATCH] sched: Support current clocksource handling in fallback sched_clock() Paul Mundt
2009-05-28 19:41                                                 ` [PATCH] sched: Support current clocksource handling in Daniel Walker
2009-05-28 23:37                                                   ` [PATCH] sched: Support current clocksource handling in fallback sched_clock() Paul Mundt
2009-05-28 18:44                                           ` [PATCH] sched: Support current clocksource handling in fallback Thomas Gleixner
2009-05-28 17:00                                   ` Thomas Gleixner
2009-05-28 17:07                                 ` [PATCH] sched: Support current clocksource handling in John Stultz
2009-05-26 20:23     ` john stultz
2009-05-26 20:30       ` Peter Zijlstra
2009-05-26 20:40         ` john stultz
2009-05-26 20:55           ` Peter Zijlstra
2009-05-26 23:00             ` john stultz
2009-05-26 23:24               ` [PATCH] sched: Support current clocksource handling in fallback Mangalampalli, JayantX
2009-05-27  0:04                 ` Thomas Gleixner
2009-05-26 23:39               ` Thomas Gleixner
2009-05-27  6:58               ` [PATCH] sched: Support current clocksource handling in Peter Zijlstra
2009-05-26 20:39       ` [PATCH] sched: Support current clocksource handling in fallback Thomas Gleixner
2009-05-26 14:43   ` [PATCH] sched: Support current clocksource handling in fallback sched_clock() Paul Mundt
2009-05-26 14:50     ` [PATCH] sched: Support current clocksource handling in Peter Zijlstra
2009-05-26 14:53       ` [PATCH] sched: Support current clocksource handling in fallback sched_clock() Paul Mundt
2009-05-26 15:02   ` [PATCH] sched: Support current clocksource handling in fallback Matthieu CASTET

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