From: Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>
To: john stultz <johnstul@us.ibm.com>
Cc: Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>,
Linus Walleij <linus.ml.walleij@gmail.com>,
Paul Mundt <lethal@linux-sh.org>, Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu>,
Andrew Victor <linux@maxim.org.za>,
Haavard Skinnemoen <hskinnemoen@atmel.com>,
Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-sh@vger.kernel.org,
linux-arm-kernel@lists.arm.linux.org.uk,
John Stultz <johnstul@linux.vnet.ibm.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] sched: Support current clocksource handling in fallback
Date: Tue, 26 May 2009 20:39:42 +0000 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <alpine.LFD.2.00.0905262233560.1762@localhost.localdomain> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1243369423.3275.5.camel@localhost>
On Tue, 26 May 2009, john stultz wrote:
> On Tue, 2009-05-26 at 16:38 +0200, Peter Zijlstra wrote:
> > Added the generic clock and timer folks to CC.
> >
> > On Tue, 2009-05-26 at 16:31 +0200, Linus Walleij wrote:
> > > 2009/5/26 Paul Mundt <lethal@linux-sh.org>:
> > >
> > > > */
> > > > unsigned long long __attribute__((weak)) sched_clock(void)
> > > > {
> > > > + /*
> > > > + * Use the current clocksource when it becomes available later in
> > > > + * the boot process, and ensure that it has a high enough rating
> > > > + * to make it suitable for general use.
> > > > + */
> > > > + if (clock && clock->rating >= 100)
> > > > + return cyc2ns(clock, clocksource_read(clock));
>
> I'm not super familiar with the recent sched_clock changes, but how will
> this work if the clocksource wraps (ACPI PM wraps every 2-5 seconds).
You don't want to use ACPI PM for sched_clock, never ever.
> Also there's no locking here, so the clocksource could change under you.
>
> Further, checking for rating being greater then 100 really doesn't mean
> anything. Probably need to check if the clocksource is continuous
> instead.
I'd like to have an explicit flag for this, so we can avoid that stuff
like pmtimer and other slow access clock sources are used.
> Overall, I'd probably suggest thinking this through a bit more. At some
> point doing this right will cause sched_clock() to be basically the same
> as ktime_get(). So why not just use that instead of remaking it?
ktime_get() involves xtime lock and the scheduler does not care about
a slightly wrong value. sched_clock does not have the accuracy
requirements of time keeping,
If we have an explicit flag we can replace lots of arch/embedded
sched_clock implementations with a generic one which is a Good Thing.
There is a world beside the broken x86 timers :)
Thanks,
tglx
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2009-05-26 20:39 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 57+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2009-05-26 6:15 [PATCH] sched: Support current clocksource handling in fallback sched_clock() Paul Mundt
2009-05-26 14:31 ` [PATCH] sched: Support current clocksource handling in fallback Linus Walleij
2009-05-26 14:38 ` [PATCH] sched: Support current clocksource handling in Peter Zijlstra
2009-05-26 20:17 ` [PATCH] sched: Support current clocksource handling in fallback Thomas Gleixner
2009-05-26 23:08 ` [PATCH] sched: Support current clocksource handling in fallback sched_clock() Paul Mundt
2009-05-26 23:13 ` Paul Mundt
2009-05-26 23:25 ` [PATCH] sched: Support current clocksource handling in john stultz
2009-05-26 23:44 ` [PATCH] sched: Support current clocksource handling in fallback sched_clock() Paul Mundt
2009-05-27 0:18 ` [PATCH] sched: Support current clocksource handling in fallback Thomas Gleixner
2009-05-27 0:22 ` [PATCH] sched: Support current clocksource handling in john stultz
2009-05-27 0:26 ` [PATCH] sched: Support current clocksource handling in fallback sched_clock() Paul Mundt
2009-05-27 1:09 ` [PATCH] sched: Support current clocksource handling in john stultz
2009-05-27 0:27 ` [PATCH] sched: Support current clocksource handling in fallback Thomas Gleixner
2009-05-26 23:49 ` Thomas Gleixner
2009-05-27 0:15 ` [PATCH] sched: Support current clocksource handling in fallback sched_clock() Paul Mundt
2009-05-27 16:25 ` [PATCH] sched: Support current clocksource handling in Daniel Walker
2009-05-28 8:44 ` [PATCH] sched: Support current clocksource handling in fallback sched_clock() Paul Mundt
2009-05-28 9:19 ` Paul Mundt
2009-05-28 9:34 ` [PATCH] sched: Support current clocksource handling in Peter Zijlstra
2009-05-28 11:09 ` [PATCH] sched: Support current clocksource handling in fallback sched_clock() Paul Mundt
2009-05-28 12:22 ` [PATCH] sched: Support current clocksource handling in fallback Thomas Gleixner
2009-05-28 12:40 ` [PATCH] sched: Support current clocksource handling in Peter Zijlstra
2009-05-28 12:42 ` [PATCH] sched: Support current clocksource handling in fallback sched_clock() Paul Mundt
2009-05-28 12:53 ` [PATCH] sched: Support current clocksource handling in fallback Thomas Gleixner
2009-05-28 12:59 ` [PATCH] sched: Support current clocksource handling in Peter Zijlstra
2009-05-28 13:20 ` [PATCH] sched: Support current clocksource handling in fallback sched_clock() Paul Mundt
2009-05-28 16:13 ` [PATCH] sched: Support current clocksource handling in Daniel Walker
2009-05-28 16:32 ` Peter Zijlstra
2009-05-28 16:40 ` [PATCH] sched: Support current clocksource handling in fallback sched_clock() Paul Mundt
2009-05-28 16:52 ` [PATCH] sched: Support current clocksource handling in Daniel Walker
2009-05-28 16:58 ` [PATCH] sched: Support current clocksource handling in fallback sched_clock() Paul Mundt
2009-05-28 17:38 ` [PATCH] sched: Support current clocksource handling in Daniel Walker
2009-05-28 17:46 ` [PATCH] sched: Support current clocksource handling in fallback Thomas Gleixner
2009-05-28 17:53 ` [PATCH] sched: Support current clocksource handling in fallback sched_clock() Paul Mundt
2009-05-28 18:10 ` [PATCH] sched: Support current clocksource handling in Daniel Walker
2009-05-28 18:27 ` [PATCH] sched: Support current clocksource handling in fallback sched_clock() Paul Mundt
2009-05-28 19:04 ` [PATCH] sched: Support current clocksource handling in Daniel Walker
2009-05-28 19:34 ` [PATCH] sched: Support current clocksource handling in fallback sched_clock() Paul Mundt
2009-05-28 19:41 ` [PATCH] sched: Support current clocksource handling in Daniel Walker
2009-05-28 23:37 ` [PATCH] sched: Support current clocksource handling in fallback sched_clock() Paul Mundt
2009-05-28 18:44 ` [PATCH] sched: Support current clocksource handling in fallback Thomas Gleixner
2009-05-28 17:00 ` Thomas Gleixner
2009-05-28 17:07 ` [PATCH] sched: Support current clocksource handling in John Stultz
2009-05-26 20:23 ` john stultz
2009-05-26 20:30 ` Peter Zijlstra
2009-05-26 20:40 ` john stultz
2009-05-26 20:55 ` Peter Zijlstra
2009-05-26 23:00 ` john stultz
2009-05-26 23:24 ` [PATCH] sched: Support current clocksource handling in fallback Mangalampalli, JayantX
2009-05-27 0:04 ` Thomas Gleixner
2009-05-26 23:39 ` Thomas Gleixner
2009-05-27 6:58 ` [PATCH] sched: Support current clocksource handling in Peter Zijlstra
2009-05-26 20:39 ` Thomas Gleixner [this message]
2009-05-26 14:43 ` [PATCH] sched: Support current clocksource handling in fallback sched_clock() Paul Mundt
2009-05-26 14:50 ` [PATCH] sched: Support current clocksource handling in Peter Zijlstra
2009-05-26 14:53 ` [PATCH] sched: Support current clocksource handling in fallback sched_clock() Paul Mundt
2009-05-26 15:02 ` [PATCH] sched: Support current clocksource handling in fallback Matthieu CASTET
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