From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 From: Lee Revell Date: Mon, 09 Jan 2006 15:18:13 +0000 Subject: Re: [2.6 patch] schedule obsolete OSS drivers for removal Message-Id: <1136819894.9957.16.camel@mindpipe> List-Id: References: <20060104010123.GK3831@stusta.de> <20060104113726.3bd7a649@mango.fruits.de> <1136445395.24475.17.camel@mindpipe> <20060105124317.2d12a85c@mango.fruits.de> <1136483330.31583.5.camel@mindpipe> <20060108210756.GD1686@vianova.fi> <1136756669.2997.2.camel@mindpipe> <20060109081646.GG21365@vianova.fi> <1136814731.9957.4.camel@mindpipe> <20060109142239.GR21365@vianova.fi> In-Reply-To: <20060109142239.GR21365@vianova.fi> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit To: vherva@vianova.fi Cc: Florian Schmidt , Tomasz =?ISO-8859-1?Q?K=B3oczko?= , Adrian Bunk , Jesper Juhl , Takashi Iwai , Olivier Galibert , Alistair John Strachan , Jan Engelhardt , Andi Kleen , perex@suse.cz, alsa-devel@alsa-project.org, James@superbug.demon.co.uk, sailer@ife.ee.ethz.ch, linux-sound@vger.kernel.org, zab@zabbo.net, kyle@parisc-linux.org, jgarzik@pobox.com, Thorsten Knabe , zwane@commfireservices.com, zaitcev@yahoo.com, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org On Mon, 2006-01-09 at 16:22 +0200, Ville Herva wrote: > On Mon, Jan 09, 2006 at 08:52:11AM -0500, you [Lee Revell] wrote: > > > > Sure, we'd like the bug report. > > I will try to come up with one. > > > I just wanted to point out that many people who tell everyone that "ALSA > > sucks" like you and JWZ, have really just made the mistake of buying > > bleeding edge barely-supported hardware. > > Yes. > > I'll happily admit I definetely made just that mistake. > > Before I bought the new card, I did some quick asking around, and heard that > M-Audio was supposedly good. I just wanted better sound quality than the > integrated I815 sound (shouldn't be much to ask), and preferably HW mixing. > I checked that revo7.1 was supported, but when I went to the reseller, they > were out of stock for that one. So I made a quick and unconsidered decision > to buy revo5.1 instead. > > So it was definetely bad research on my part. > > But I still maintain that the asoundrc required for swmixing is not as > trivial as "just works". It wasn't even with i815 audio. Since ALSA 1.0.9 (alsa-lib and alsa-driver > 1.0.9 required) no special configuration is required to get software mixing to work for i815 (and other chipsets which lack hardware mixing), with a few exception like ICE1712 and ICE1724 where a more complex configuration was required due to hardware restrictions. You should never have to touch an .asoundrc file to get software mixing to work, if you do it's a bug. Lee