From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 From: Alistair John Strachan Date: Tue, 03 Jan 2006 14:34:54 +0000 Subject: Re: [2.6 patch] schedule obsolete OSS drivers for removal Message-Id: <200601031434.55050.s0348365@sms.ed.ac.uk> List-Id: References: <20050726150837.GT3160@stusta.de> <200601031433.04131.s0348365@sms.ed.ac.uk> In-Reply-To: <200601031433.04131.s0348365@sms.ed.ac.uk> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit To: David Lang Cc: Andi Kleen , Adrian Bunk , perex@suse.cz, alsa-devel@alsa-project.org, James@superbug.demon.co.uk, sailer@ife.ee.ethz.ch, linux-sound@vger.kernel.org, zab@zabbo.net, kyle@parisc-linux.org, parisc-linux@lists.parisc-linux.org, jgarzik@pobox.com, Thorsten Knabe , zwane@commfireservices.com, zaitcev@yahoo.com, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org On Tuesday 03 January 2006 14:33, Alistair John Strachan wrote: > On Tuesday 03 January 2006 13:58, David Lang wrote: > > On Tue, 3 Jan 2006, Andi Kleen wrote: > > >> Even if Adrian's not trying to make this point (he's just removing > > >> duplicate drivers, and opting for the newer ones), we accepted ALSA > > >> into the kernel. It's probably about time we let OSS die properly, for > > >> sanity purposes. > > > > > > Avoiding bloat is more important. > > > > given that the ALSA drivers are not going to be removed, isn't it bloat > > to have two drivers for the same card? > > Normally this isn't too big a deal in Linux; eventually one gets removed, > but not until it is substantially inferior than the other (or broken, or > not compiling, or unmaintained..). > > > yes, an individual compiled kernel may be slightly smaller by continueing > > to support the OSS driver, but the source (and the maintinance) are > > significantly worse by haveing two drivers instead of just one. > > If there are two separate maintainers it's probably not a lot worse. I > think the argument pretty much has to remain "ALSA drivers are technically > superior, OSS drivers have unfixable limitations", and that should be a > good enough reason to see them removed. > > Perhaps Andi's concerns about ALSA bloat could also be concerned. ^^^ addressed -- Cheers, Alistair. 'No sense being pessimistic, it probably wouldn't work anyway.' Third year Computer Science undergraduate. 1F2 55 South Clerk Street, Edinburgh, UK.