From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 From: Olivier Galibert Date: Tue, 03 Jan 2006 17:03:16 +0000 Subject: Re: [2.6 patch] schedule obsolete OSS drivers for removal Message-Id: <20060103170316.GA12249@dspnet.fr.eu.org> List-Id: References: <20050726150837.GT3160@stusta.de> <200601031522.06898.s0348365@sms.ed.ac.uk> <20060103160502.GB5262@irc.pl> <200601031629.21765.s0348365@sms.ed.ac.uk> In-Reply-To: <200601031629.21765.s0348365@sms.ed.ac.uk> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit To: Alistair John Strachan Cc: Tomasz Torcz , Jan Engelhardt , Andi Kleen , Adrian Bunk , perex@suse.cz, alsa-devel@alsa-project.org, James@superbug.demon.co.uk, sailer@ife.ee.ethz.ch, linux-sound@vger.kernel.org, zab@zabbo.net, kyle@parisc-linux.org, parisc-linux@lists.parisc-linux.org, jgarzik@pobox.com, Thorsten Knabe , zwane@commfireservices.com, zaitcev@yahoo.com, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org On Tue, Jan 03, 2006 at 04:29:21PM +0000, Alistair John Strachan wrote: > This has nothing to do with the kernel option CONFIG_SND_OSSEMUL which Jan > referred to, and to which I was responding. "aoss" is also not compatible > with every conceivable program. Especially not with plugins. Flashplayer anybody? > This is exactly why the OSS emulation option in ALSA is really a last resort > and should not be an excuse for people to ignore implementing ALSA support > directly. More so, it is very good justification for ditching "everything > OSS" as soon as possible, at least in new software. Actually the crappy state of OSS emulation is a good reason to ditch ALSA in its current implementation. As Linus reminded not so long ago, backwards compatibility is extremely important. Also, not everybody wants to depend on a shared library. I find this "the alsa lib must be kept in lockstep with the kernel version" quite annoying. I'd rather not have the windows dll hell on linux, TYVM. Or in other words, the public API of a kernel interface should _NEVER_ be a library only. At least OSS, with all its issues, had that right. OG.