From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 From: Olivier Galibert Date: Thu, 05 Jan 2006 11:41:01 +0000 Subject: Re: [OT] ALSA userspace API complexity Message-Id: <20060105114101.GA43299@dspnet.fr.eu.org> List-Id: References: <20050726150837.GT3160@stusta.de> <20060104030034.6b780485.zaitcev@redhat.com> <200601041423.43206.s0348365@sms.ed.ac.uk> In-Reply-To: <200601041423.43206.s0348365@sms.ed.ac.uk> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit To: Alistair John Strachan Cc: Jaroslav Kysela , Pete Zaitcev , kloczek@rudy.mif.pg.gda.pl, Adrian Bunk , Tomasz Torcz , Jan Engelhardt , Andi Kleen , alsa-devel@alsa-project.org, James@superbug.demon.co.uk, sailer@ife.ee.ethz.ch, linux-sound@vger.kernel.org, zab@zabbo.net, kyle@parisc-linux.org, parisc-linux@lists.parisc-linux.org, jgarzik@pobox.com, Thorsten Knabe , zwane@commfireservices.com, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org On Wed, Jan 04, 2006 at 02:23:42PM +0000, Alistair John Strachan wrote: > Or, take an ioctl approach (which people here seem to love; urgh): I'm afraid you missed the point there. ioctl or not ioctl is not important, and yes, ioctls have a lot of problems. The problem is having a library define the public interface for kernel services. I don't see how come Linus accepted that, unless he doesn't really use sound and just doesn't care, which is my current interpretation. OG.